ILoveControl Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Hi all, I need to find a “system” to key in a code and it opens a relay for a garage door or other door. Now this isnt a normal keypad at a gate its more for I have garden workers and house domestic sometimes they need to get i to my garage etc and I wanted a system that intergrated into my C4. I refuse to buy another DS2 its the biggest waste of money I have every spent on tech. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAutomationNerd Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, ILoveControl said: I refuse to buy another DS2 its the biggest waste of money I have every spent on tech. That's a really high bar. I've bought a Zune. Is it that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 That's a really high bar. I've bought a Zune. Is it that bad? Ds2 is worse currently I am on the latest OS, lates ds2 firmware latest driver. Everytime someone rings the door bell the hole system freezes and I have to go hard reboot the system. Its just cr@p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAutomationNerd Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, ILoveControl said: Everytime someone rings the door bell the hole system freezes and I have to go hard reboot the system. Its just cr@p Well, that's not good. I've had a DS2 on my list for a while - sounds like I should rethink that plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, ChrisM said: Well, that's not good. I've had a DS2 on my list for a while - sounds like I should rethink that plan. Am not upgrading to OS3 because of that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Can you mount a standard deadbolt doorlock somewhere, doesn't have to be an actual door, when code enters do xyz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Well, that's not good. I've had a DS2 on my list for a while - sounds like I should rethink that plan. I stand by what I say its a load of @&:& whats worse is that C4 implementation of it is disastrous. 2N makes the device and the device itself is incredible. C4 go with their crap driver and completely destroy it by limiting what it can do and resetting any settings you set on it via the web interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Am not upgrading to OS3 because of that!Because of?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Can you mount a standard deadbolt doorlock somewhere, doesn't have to be an actual door, when code enters do xyz.Absolutely there many systems out there which are really cool. I was trying to check if there as one that is cool that integrates to C4Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 I stand by what I say its a load of @&:& whats worse is that C4 implementation of it is disastrous. 2N makes the device and the device itself is incredible. C4 go with their crap driver and completely destroy it by limiting what it can do and resetting any settings you set on it via the web interface.On top of that their driver is as buggy as hell Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, ILoveControl said: Because of? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Am on DS1, DS2 seems the recommended go to, but with all its issues I keep reading about am still hesitant to goto EA5 and OS3, Video doorbell is my primary use case and I have to have it like DS1 on all my 11 screens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Am on DS1, DS2 seems the recommended go to, but with all its issues I keep reading about am still hesitant to goto EA5 and OS3, Video doorbell is my primary use case and I have to have it like DS1 on all my 11 screens!Wish the ds2 did that reliably Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanDad Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Seems so strange to me that C4/Snap allow this door station/camera/intercom crap to persist. It's clearly a weak spot, and has been for years. They are defending their territory against consumer devices like Ring with a hugely expensive solution that doesn't really work. Certainly nowhere near 100%. It's really hard to defend the DS2 (especially having defended the DS1), the camera/NVR integration and intercom with customers or potential customers when it is so flaky and so expensive. These are the sorts of weaknesses that become big problems for a platform/ecosystem. Customers don't care about the arcane technical excuses when they buy something for 10x the price of a consumer device and find that it has 50% of the real world functionality or quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4 User Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 While I agree that the DS2 could and should be so much better for the price point and current level of industry technology, I am running the latest firmware and never experience system crashes or hang ups. I do not ever reboot my system unless due to a driver additional or major programming update. Not sure if it makes a difference, but my entire system is on UPS including my entire network and TVs. So while the technology is outdated, the system reliability is high. If you are experience system crashes or freezes, it is likely a network hardware issue, out of date firmware, or possibly a rouge driver that is in your system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 46 minutes ago, C4 User said: While I agree that the DS2 could and should be so much better for the price point and current level of industry technology, I am running the latest firmware and never experience system crashes or hang ups. I do not ever reboot my system unless due to a driver additional or major programming update. Not sure if it makes a difference, but my entire system is on UPS including my entire network and TVs. So while the technology is outdated, the system reliability is high. If you are experience system crashes or freezes, it is likely a network hardware issue, out of date firmware, or possibly a rouge driver that is in your system. This is my experience on the current DS2 driver... but every time a new version of the driver comes out, I am terrified there will be a new bug as I have had months of issues followed by a month or two of things working. Fortunately, I am currently in the works great space. Albeit there is one bug in the latest driver (and a work around) and I believe C4 is aware of this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 You don’t have to use the DS2 driver. There is another 2N driver that can be used, so when auto-config runs, it doesn’t wipe the ds2. But I do agree, very overpriced for what you get and doesn’t even use all of its capabilities. Intercom in general is meh, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 You don’t have to use the DS2 driver. There is another 2N driver that can be used, so when auto-config runs, it doesn’t wipe the ds2. But I do agree, very overpriced for what you get and doesn’t even use all of its capabilities. Intercom in general is meh, IMHO. Does all the SIP functions work with all the navigators?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 YupSo whats special about the C4 one?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Easier setup. The driver does all the work really. With the 2N, you need to configure the web gui, then add those settings into the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 Really like thank thank you. Is it the 2n driver thats was last updated like 2017?Also any ideas for the keypad access for a internal door like my garage? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 This driver.....https://drivers.control4.com/solr/drivers/browse?&q=&fq=manufacturer:"2N+TELEKOMUNIKACE+a.s." Once you flash 2N firmware to the DS2, warranty is voided. Have to lead with that. Here are the modules that are compatible with it- https://www.2nusa.com/en_US/products/intercoms/2n-helios-ip-verso#tab-3 As far as keypad, do you not have a keypad already outside your garage doors? This doesn't seem like it needs to integrate to C4 at all. Do it right from the door opener. Other than that, I'd be looking at an access control system, which I'm sure would be over the top of what your looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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