blub Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Hi Does anyone know if Miele appliances can be integrated into Control4? Miele does provide an API: https://www.miele.com/developer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 In theory it should work, and drivers could be written for it. But there has to be demand and writing drivers takes a bit of time and the writer wants to get paid for his/her work. There are about 24 types of appliances (wahsers, dryers, dishawasher, oven, wine cabinet, etc) that can be controlled by this. Do you write one driver that can do all types of appliances? Or a separate driver for each appliance? And how much value is there in having a C4 driver for a particular appliance. For some of appliances it might be somewhat useful, for other appliances there would be very little value. Assuming that you could get past the authentication in the API you could hack some commands with the Generic TCP driver using HTTP PUTs and GETs. FYI, there is some code on Github for getting Miele info into HomeAssistant https://github.com/HomeAssistant-Mods/home-assistant-miele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo1738 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I think @msgreenf can write drivers. Might contact him and see if you can work something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 thanks for thinking of me but not really working on new projects right now. also not sure there is actually a market for this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Yes, not sure that it is worth if for the benefit of being able to turn on your dishwasher at 2am, or turn on your oven when you are on your way home from work. You can likely just use the Miele app in the rare instances that you need that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blub Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 Hi Thx for all of your replies. Yea market is relatively limited for that I admit as the Andoid/IOs app does provide the basic functions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, blub said: Thx for all of your replies. Yea market is relatively limited for that I admit as the Andoid/IOs app does provide the basic functions. I am interested in how you would use this in Control4. Is it just scheduling, like turning on a dishwasher, clothes washer, etc at certain times? Turning on an oven? Are there events that you would want to program against? When a washer or dryer finishes a cycle you could fire an announcement. I guess for wine coolers a temperature alarm might make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnpublic Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 What's more - per the folks who use the API in home assistant, the Miele APi sounds pretty broken and not very functional. and the auth token needs constant refreshing. So. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnGordon Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 4:02 PM, zaphod said: I am interested in how you would use this in Control4. Is it just scheduling, like turning on a dishwasher, clothes washer, etc at certain times? Turning on an oven? Are there events that you would want to program against? When a washer or dryer finishes a cycle you could fire an announcement. I guess for wine coolers a temperature alarm might make sense. Liability issues with all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Maybe the oven, but if the API, and Miele app, can turn on the oven then that liability exists today, does it not? Don't think there is a liability issue for notifications that your washer or dryer are finished the cycle, or that your wine fridge has hit a temperature threshold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, zaphod said: Maybe the oven, but if the API, and Miele app, can turn on the oven then that liability exists today, does it not? Miele App only allows it if on local/same wifi - an API would allow doing so when there is no-one home. That doesn't stop you from not having THAT part in the API, and certainly wouldn't prevent notifications. But as mentioned, this sounds like it would only get developed if the developer has a personal interest in integrating their coffee machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blub Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 10:02 PM, zaphod said: am interested in how you would use this in Control4. Is it just scheduling, like turning on a dishwasher, clothes washer, etc at certain times? Turning on an oven? Are there events that you would want to program against? When a washer or dryer finishes a cycle you could fire an announcement. I guess for wine coolers a temperature alarm might make sense. Hi My main idea was to use it as notifications - washing machine, dryer is finished on the wall tablets - so anyone walking around know that tis done and one can proceed to the next step. This is what goes wrong most of the times, someone turn on the washing machine, goes to do other stuff and forgets about it..... . Even when I use an App I only see it on the phone screen and its just the persons who have the app Also starting the dryer via a schedule would be something I would look into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshepard Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 4:02 PM, zaphod said: I am interested in how you would use this in Control4. Is it just scheduling, like turning on a dishwasher, clothes washer, etc at certain times? Turning on an oven? Are there events that you would want to program against? When a washer or dryer finishes a cycle you could fire an announcement. I guess for wine coolers a temperature alarm might make sense. I integrated an $18k Sub-Zero fridge that had a “party” setting as part of its API, which would tell it to make ice faster. I added that into a Party scene for A/V & lighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Dryer is pretty easy, put a current sensor on it's power cord. https://www.supplyhouse.com/Fantech-ACCS40-AC-Current-Sensing-Switch?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyu67vuC76gIVxkXVCh3eFA2FEAQYBCABEgJOM_D_BwE#reviews-content wnpublic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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