paulstevens Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 HC1000 has an Atom330 in it. Shows as End of Life on the intel website.Curious what is under the hood of the HC800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Does this mean Flash Navigator has finally been migrated to AS3 (which would result in a huge speed-up on it's own), but also to take advantage of the new hardware-accelarated video API in Flash?No, it does not imply AS3. It is still AS2 platform, as it still needs to be built for the embedded platform.It's AS2 with the hardware-accelerated video interface as a software module built into the Flash build.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Reposting this here (this threads getting more traction)Can anyone in the know tell us whether or not the new IE's will be interoperable with any VOIP/SIP H.264 devices ... like the Mobotix T24 and/or the Grandstream IP video phones ?Edited to add:Absent the new door station, I'm interested in other reasons customers might want to upgrade to the new panelsYeh..this is a really good question. I'd like an answer as well...Also the door station...It is wireless right?...I guess it just depends if it's just zigbee pro, or it also has a IP address that can be picked up on a general wireless internet network. Hey dgb...if so, maybe if it outputs H.264, the video feed could be put into something like security spy and fed into folks older touchscreens and navigators using the EV driver that way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdvr Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Reposting this here (this threads getting more traction)Can anyone in the know tell us whether or not the new IE's will be interoperable with any VOIP/SIP H.264 devices ... like the Mobotix T24 and/or the Grandstream IP video phones ?Edited to add:Absent the new door station' date=' I'm interested in other reasons customers might want to upgrade to the new panels[/quote']Yeh..this is a really good question. I'd like an answer as well...Also the door station...It is wireless right?...I guess it just depends if it's just zigbee pro, or it also has a IP address that can be picked up on a general wireless internet network. Hey dgb...if so, maybe if it outputs H.264, the video feed could be put into something like security spy and fed into folks older touchscreens and navigators using the EV driver that way....They are using SIP, but as of right now there is 0 third party support.It was mentioned it was on the roadmap, but it may or may not happen and there is definately no timeline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Everyone talks of "the road map"...That used to be something which would cause endless arguments in the car with the Mrs...Now are you suggesting we move these "discussions" into her domain (the house) as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Sweet, instead of making the current one work they give us the shaft and shift resources to an all new one (albeit it looks the exact same) that has a camera and magically works with all the new video intercom functionality.Oh and by the way, until someone takes apart the new HC800 I am still not convinced it has a "new" processor in it.I have two 7" IE touch panels still in the box...oops. That's an expensive mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I have two 7" IE touch panels still in the box...oops. That's an expensive mistake.Can't you exchange them? Seriously if I was C4 or a dealer, I wouldn't mess with such a high profile customer like you :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 ^Doubtful. Just think about that for a second, how is dealer going to make good on those dead units? He needs to wait for just the right consumer who doesn't need video intercom-one of the few things people have been crying about for, like, ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I have two 7" IE touch panels still in the box...oops. That's an expensive mistake.Can't you exchange them? Seriously if I was C4 or a dealer' date=' I wouldn't mess with such a high profile customer like you :cool:[/quote']Yeah right...those things are probably like playing a game of hot potato. High profile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 ^Yeah you are. Just look at that post count- MASSIVE. High-roller status of the likes that club411 has never experienced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 ^Yeah you are. Just look at that post count- MASSIVE. High-roller status of the likes that club411 has never experienced Right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I wonder what he'd say of all this if he wasn't a baller (not like he wasn't when he first came here) now? I'm sure his wife really digs Control4 in that penthouse apt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'm kinda happy with the speed' date=' mesh and setup of my HC1000/HC300's..I don't use the on screen navigator anyway..so can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?These controllers look great, but they are surely for new users...Other than the new door station, is there anything in this announcement that improves the C4 "experience" for current users that are real happy with their hardware setup the way it is now?...... [/quote']I am going to replace two HC200B's with an HC800. One of the HC200's is in the rack and serves as GUI for a few shared displays and the Slingbox, and the other HC200 is also in the rack and is a ZAP.I will scrap both those and the accompanying rack mount kit for the HC800. I just ordered the HC800...hope to see it early February.Be sure to scrap them my wayHey Mike, shoot me a PM with an offer (so can anyone else for that matter). 2 x HC200b's in a slick Middle Atlantic rack mount that puts then side by side in a 1U space. They're less than a year old, and I have the boxes and everything for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt4gps Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Guessing it has to do with voice activation (i.e. Siri)Siri and Crestron:http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/siri-based-home-automation-for-crestron/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c44me Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Guessing it has to do with voice activation (i.e. Siri)Siri and Crestron:http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/siri-based-home-automation-for-crestron/"....which is likely to make the folks at Control4 more than a bit nervous. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I've seen Voice Controlled automation shown at CEDIA / CES since the mid '90's. Some of it almost *exactly* like this demo.I've still yet to be impressed with it, except in a niche situation (like for a disabled person, etc.).Even in this demo. The same thing could certainly be done with Control4.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Even in this demo. The same thing could certainly be done with Control4.RyanEAgreed, I don't see why it couldn't be done with C4 or why we should be nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me23 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Not to mention having to speak into your phone. Bring on mic array throughout the house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Mic array in homes is also incredibly difficult and expensive to do right, another reason IMHO that voice control hasn't taken off as some had hoped.Of course, I could be wrong, it might be the next big thing (CEA just announced they thought it was a 'hot trend' or some other crap like that).I'm not holding my breath.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettB0727 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 That is a bit silly! Not only do you need to have your phone with you to use it, but it takes a press and hold + roughly a 5-7 second wait. No thanks, I will pass on this over engineering! All the operations that took place in that video could have occurred in about 25% of the time just by using your fingers, not to mention I would consider a press+hold equal to about the same effort as 3 taps.If you are going to do voice recognition, at least do it right. I agree with me23, mic array all the way and with audible cues instead of the press and hold nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Sometimes Siri doesnt understand me and English is my first and second language (I'm still learning it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazplex Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'd be a big fan of a C4 Siriproxy plugin if someone had the interest in making one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drro Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 +1 Against voice control in the near future. Siri is great when it works, but it has a very limited feature set and is very immature. And Siri is "best of breed" right now. We're still several years away from the voice control we'd all want. There are far better things C4 can do to improve the user experience, rather than be distracted by voice control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonddesign Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Skip voice control. As I said a few months ago, mind control is possible. Not discrete channels but quite possible with current technology. I plan to toy with it in 2012. Voice control and/or mind control is important for quality of life for those with disabilities that cannot use a remote control or touchscreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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