brucecampbell Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Is the on screen navigator still a thing? I've been on an HC800 for so long, where my OS version didn't allow this functionality. Now that I've upgraded to a Core5, I just thought about it again, but my 4 button does nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Yes it is definitely still a thing, I use it regularly and it is available in 4K which is a big improvement. There were some HDMI handshake issues initially but most of these have been dealt with in the latest OS. Have you tried rebooting your EA5? What is your EA5 plugged in to (in terms of its HDMI connection)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecampbell Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 Just now, South Africa C4 user said: Have you tried rebooting your EA5? What is your EA5 plugged in to (in terms of its HDMI connection)? HDMI on the Core5 is currently not used. I'd have to try it through my HDMI to Component converter as I only have component running from the rack to the TV's However, if the controller needs to do the HDCP handshake, then I would assume I can't use it via this method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcllc Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I've had an EA5 with the on-screen nav to all TV's via video matrix for 6 years. Yes - it works well. But in practice, it is very, very, very seldom used. If I needed another video source, I wouldn't think twice about giving up the on-screen navigator. If you have other control devices like a C4 wall-mount, mobile device app and/or a C4 SR-260/halo readily available, my advice is I wouldn't put a lot of effort into it, unless I just needed a project to work to have some fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time2Jet Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 10 hours ago, brucecampbell said: Is the on screen navigator still a thing? I've been on an HC800 for so long, where my OS version didn't allow this functionality. Now that I've upgraded to a Core5, I just thought about it again, but my 4 button does nothing. The OSD needs bound at the room level for the C4 Red Button to Pop OSD. Make sure that’s the case in the room you’re in. It also can be bound to multiple rooms. Even when it is bound, even though it will display, the cursor will work, but until you focus on the room you are in, it will control the only room selected in the OSD. (Which can be changed each time or likely a few lines of programming). OSD on a matrix has been traditionally for camera pops and media (what’s playing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecampbell Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 8 hours ago, cdcllc said: I've had an EA5 with the on-screen nav to all TV's via video matrix for 6 years. Yes - it works well. But in practice, it is very, very, very seldom used. If I needed another video source, I wouldn't think twice about giving up the on-screen navigator. If you have other control devices like a C4 wall-mount, mobile device app and/or a C4 SR-260/halo readily available, my advice is I wouldn't put a lot of effort into it, unless I just needed a project to work to have some fun! I doubt I'd use it much either, but I'm not using HDMI out of the core and the leaf matrix has plenty of pots, as it's hardly used these days either - might try to get it running now that I know its still available. cdcllc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecampbell Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 8 hours ago, time2jet said: OSD on a matrix has been traditionally for camera pops and media (what’s playing). I still have 100's of old movies on a NAS drive and a netgear EVA media player hooked into a leaf 1080 matrix. Hardly used given all the streaming options we have, but if the OSD is available, we might use it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 4 hours ago, brucecampbell said: I still have 100's of old movies on a NAS drive and a netgear EVA media player hooked into a leaf 1080 matrix. Hardly used given all the streaming options we have, but if the OSD is available, we might use it... If you have an Apple TV, you might find the Infuse App is a better way of achieving this. C4 User and brucecampbell 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 4 hours ago, South Africa C4 user said: If you have an Apple TV, you might find the Infuse App is a better way of achieving this. I have a mixed results with Infuse, I love it but it caches on your ATV, if u have lots of Apps and your ATV is 32GB, u will need to look else where aka Plex as Infuse will always reload contents and it’s annoying! brucecampbell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 14 hours ago, brucecampbell said: I still have 100's of old movies on a NAS drive and a netgear EVA media player hooked into a leaf 1080 matrix. Hardly used given all the streaming options we have, but if the OSD is available, we might use it... I'd recommend looking at Plex. It will provide you with the best overall experience. I traded in my kaliedescape years ago and haven't looked back. brucecampbell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecampbell Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 2:01 PM, South Africa C4 user said: If you have an Apple TV, you might find the Infuse App is a better way of achieving this. I don't know the infuse App, but will take a look, so thanks for recommending it. I do have an early Gen Apple TV on my living room TV. But only an XBox and Chrome Cast on the second TV. The ease of use with the NetGear via the component matrix will probably be my best option, as most of the time these stored movies would be watched by the kids on the second TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecampbell Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 6:47 PM, Amr said: I have a mixed results with Infuse, I love it but it caches on your ATV, if u have lots of Apps and your ATV is 32GB, u will need to look else where aka Plex as Infuse will always reload contents and it’s annoying! I do have Plex, but I was unable to link it to my NAS. I think my only option here is to link it from my home PC or laptop - which means leaving it on 24/7 - which I just don't do. So the one time per year I go to use Plex, I have to walk to the office to turn the PC on..... not ideal.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, brucecampbell said: I do have Plex, but I was unable to link it to my NAS. I think my only option here is to link it from my home PC or laptop - which means leaving it on 24/7 - which I just don't do. So the one time per year I go to use Plex, I have to walk to the office to turn the PC on..... not ideal.... Do you have a Plex server running on your NAS? That is what you typically want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 11 hours ago, brucecampbell said: I do have Plex, but I was unable to link it to my NAS. I think my only option here is to link it from my home PC or laptop - which means leaving it on 24/7 - which I just don't do. So the one time per year I go to use Plex, I have to walk to the office to turn the PC on..... not ideal.... What NAS do you have? A lot of them can run plex. If you have 100s of movies and you say you'd use plex once a year then you either collect video files you never watch, or you don't know what Plex is. Again, look into plex: www.plex.tv if your NAS can run it, try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecampbell Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 13 hours ago, ekohn00 said: What NAS do you have? A lot of them can run plex. Synology DS109J I'm not sure it can run Plex. I vaguely remember looking into it when I first installed Plex years ago. 13 hours ago, ekohn00 said: If you have 100s of movies and you say you'd use plex once a year then you either collect video files you never watch, or you don't know what Plex is. Interesting statement. I collected most of these movies about 20 years ago, back before streaming was available and use a Netgear media player to play these distributed to all TV's in the house via a left 1080 component matrix - from back before HDMI was really available via matrix, or too costly.. They used to get watched all the time, especially when the kids were young. I don't think I've added another movie for 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 9 hours ago, brucecampbell said: Synology DS109J I'm not sure it can run Plex. I vaguely remember looking into it when I first installed Plex years ago. Unfortunately, this is the first time I've run into a Synology NAS thats limited to old versions of plex. I'd go into synology's package center and see if you can load plex. it may not be the best running, but you can get an idea of what's available to you. if this is the environment you'd want, you can either add a plex server (can be an old pc rujnning plex) or upgrade your NAS to a newer one. 9 hours ago, brucecampbell said: Interesting statement. I collected most of these movies about 20 years ago, back before streaming was available and use a Netgear media player to play these distributed to all TV's in the house via a left 1080 component matrix - from back before HDMI was really available via matrix, or too costly.. They used to get watched all the time, especially when the kids were young. I don't think I've added another movie for 15 years. funny story.... those young kids got me into movie servers, I was amazed how in 3 minutes' time 100s of DVDs could be all over the floor and damaged. We still use plex for the latest and greatest movies, as well as TV shows, but time was there were a few movies that got plaid 100s of times when the kids were little. Our collection also goes back 20 years. brucecampbell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecampbell Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 Right, Core5 HDMI output connected to 'HDMI to Component' converter. Component connected to Leaf 1080 matrix. Two TV's connected to 1080 matrix. TV1 is an old Hitachi plasma - this shows the OSD, though the TV says 'invalid format' for a while. And does not show the correct size screen, it appears the output is too big for the screen. TV2 is a Panasonic LCD - this shows a black screen only. Any ideas what the issue is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Fix the output to 1080p in the driver for the controller. That should solve your problem brucecampbell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecampbell Posted August 7, 2023 Author Share Posted August 7, 2023 3 hours ago, msgreenf said: Fix the output to 1080p in the driver for the controller. That should solve your problem Thanks for the advice. I think my HDMI to Component converter must be a limitation, 1080P did not work, but 720P is working ok. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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