Amr

Your need to buy the lic from any of the dealers in the forum, or check with your dealer.

I have the Hub 2.0 and all sensors are 2.0, the Hub range is really, really pathetic, it fails in 1m if you have all concrete walls like most houses outside US, we use concrete not wood, so I might need to workout some placements, Extenders, etc. The System is solid but will need to use at least 4 Extenders to get the job done! There also might be some interference as I have a fairly large Zigbee Mesh Network. Also 2.4GHz Ubiquity AP is very close by. Does any one know what is the Zigbee channel the Hub 2.0 uses?

It’s always a hardware issue, not sure if your can disassemble it and clean it, it might work again, I personally never opened up a C4 Remote, so u might get another remote from eBay and RMA this.

Out of curiosity how it integrates to C4?

It’s very expensive compared to RTS Somfi in-wall retrofit pucks!! They cost €40 a piece and with URTSII $200 16 channel unit integration to C4 is a snap and works incredibly well, even with the free driver ... Somfi Motors are affordable as well, I believe a TCO excel sheet will make the purchase decision at the end ...

What’s wrong with the current OS, UI? It’s what had made my purchase decision in the first place ... Innovation is welcomed of course, will wait and see.

U either have an EA-1 to control it via IR or Zigbee to IR or IP to IR or WiFi to IR, for the last two options Global Cache is where u should look.

Upgrading your HC800 to 2.10.6 will render your HC300 and HC200 obsolete and you have to remove them from your project, just know that before you update ...

Each puck joins the project as a light load, you can Group them and do any task normally. They are pretty fast, almost instantaneous, no delays at all, they use Zigbee to report back their status to the system.

I don’t think they operate outside China, never managed to get any pricing nor how to acquire their devices!

Yes, C4 is very limited unfortunately ...

I used Schnider Electric Unica normal Toggle Switch, it’s usually used in homes for Outdoor Bells! Its impossible to use 3 Pucks in same Backbox, they are bulky! You can only house 2 max! For the 3rd u might need to use an adjacent backbox if u use more than one ...

No, all pucks are single loads with two control switches, they also support illuminating swiches if you desire (I don’t like light in house at all). The two switches works perfectly fine you can have one switch in first floor and a second in the ground floor both are great for lighting stairs for example ...

This is a great hardware and maybe a much better solution than C4's, the Ubisys is much slimmer and euros 119/piece is a great price indeed.

Yep, too modern for our taste and basically doesn’t work for me and ruined the taste ... with all these caveats Control4 was just what we was looking for ... Goodluck for your retrofit work, it will go well at the end ...

As you can see here is an example of 2 loads on a normally looking faceplate, 2 toggle switches that control 2 loads in my case here one goes to C4 IO extender module and the 2nd I used a Puck to have a distributed Zigbee mesh! In some other locations all loads goes to IO extender for example. We Don’t have 5 gangs switches only 3 max, so you use 2 if you need more ...

Normal Toggle Swiches, this works as change of state from on to off or vise versa, so basically all toggle switches with cat goes to my rack that have 3 x C4 IO units. The electrical wires that is attached to my loads goes to the distribution board that have 4 x C4 DIN rail modules. Binding each relay to each cicuit of the DIN rail to control each load! The only draw back is no dimming capabilities, but with Alex in every room, u just turn on the light and dim it if u want or u can initially program it to go to 50% with first toggle and a second one take it to 100%, it’s what we exactly needed to keep the house as vintage as possible!

Yes I got you, one Puck for one load, I some time use one pick for parallel loads but they all go ON or OFF, the only way is to use Control4 IO and DIN rail units, these are all 240 in my case and it’s an excellent solution, probably more economic as well ...

Yes, but you will need to reflash them and use David’s Berto driver to have a local MQTT setup for a reliable control. However this is a WiFi solution, my experience with WiFi is not that great, it not as reliable as C4 Zigbee or any Zigbee BTW. Am moving out of WiFi to Zigbee for everything, so WiFi lamps, Water Leakages detectors, Sockets, etc are all phased out and replace by Zigbee either For Control4 or another solution.

Am not sure what you mean by multiple, do you mean one switch for multiple loads? Meaning one switch for 3 On/Off loads for example?

This is for new homes only, am not sure this can be done for existing homes, the idea is to use the 8 relays of Control4 IO extender unit. This is the most economic solution if u don’t use C4 modern Dimmers/Switches which in my case was not needed at all to keep the house as normal as possible. Anyways, u pull a cat 5 or 6 cable from each switch box you need to control to the Control4 IO extender to use the relays. Electrical loads wired normally to the Control4 DIN rail Units, each can control 8 On/Off loads or Dimmers. You dealer program each relay that corresponds (binded) to a specific load, etc.

IO extender

Yes, I installed 20 around my house, just make sure your box have enough depth to hold the puck, I also used toggle switches to operate them. This allows me to have a normal looking switches all over the house. The rest of the house I used toggle switches hooked to IO via cat6 and Loades to 3 DIN rail panels, the entire house is now controllable via C4 interfaces, panels, remotes, etc.

I have these Pucks and my experience with them is super great, very reliable and just works, I used them around the house to have a well distributed Zigbee Network as well ...

Why every single discussion turn to complains, dealer/end user relation, etc. please move these discussions a separate topic so we can focus on the issues we have with each topic ...