jfh Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, drmark12pa said: So restored my backup project that I did before I upgraded to 3.2 and my GE Concord is back online.... so until some of these 3.2 bugs are worked out, I would recommend avoiding! The downside is now I'm stuck on firmware 3.2 and can't use Composer to do any programming. Since restoring the backup got your device back online on 3.2 I’m not sure how that translates to “avoid 3.2”. I’ve had to restore a backup after a system upgrade before so it’s not anything unique to 3.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmark12pa Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, jfh said: Since restoring the backup got your device back online on 3.2 I’m not sure how that translates to “avoid 3.2”. I’ve had to restore a backup after a system upgrade before so it’s not anything unique to 3.2 Back online in the sense that my security system is now seen by Control4. However, I still cannot log into my project with the 3.2 HE Composer as it keeps asking for a password as this bug is known. If trying to use 3.1.x HE Composer, it won't let you log in because now my firmware is 3.2 so I'm basically stuck without Composer either way it's just whether or not I want my security system to be online apparently... not sure why the security system would have gone offline however.... If a user doesn't mind not using Composer for now then 3.2 is the way to go but if you want to chance being locked out of Composer then I'd stay with 3.1.x until Control4 fixes the password bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Jane M. said: The main feature I like from the Chime is that it's always monitoring motion. I don't believe the DS2 can monitor motion. It only records when the button is pushed. Or am I wrong about that? I capture motion detection with the DS2 mini in Blue Iris, and then I action off of that. I haven't tried to do it any other way, but I'm pretty sure it does sense motion natively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane M. Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 And what are the changes they release a Chime doorbell which has the DS2 backplate? Everyone who had Control4 now had a huge hole next to their front door. Its hard to believe they wouldn't release a version which solves that problem for all their old loyal customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jane M. said: And what are the changes they release a Chime doorbell which has the DS2 backplate? Everyone who had Control4 now had a huge hole next to their front door. Its hard to believe they wouldn't release a version which solves that problem for all their old loyal customers. There needs to be a plate that will cover the door station boxes and a plate that covers a single gang box. Major fail for Control4 if they don’t have such plates available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, jfh said: There needs to be a plate that will cover the door station boxes and a plate that covers a single gang box. Major fail for Control4 if they don’t have such plates available. I was thinking you could just make a concrete/mortar smooth square/rectangle area around a single gang box. Might not look bad if done right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, ejn1 said: I was thinking you could just make a concrete/mortar smooth square/rectangle area around a single gang box. Might not look bad if done right. That doesn’t help much if you have siding or other finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 There is a guy on eBay who has wall plates for Intercom systems to transition to Ring or similar devices. Some of his stuff may work Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Would one be able to 3D print such a plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 The chime is probably literally 20% the size of the DS2 Mini. Any sort of plate would look pretty janky. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk eggzlot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, jfh said: That doesn’t help much if you have siding or other finishes. agree, i was thinking brick or stone... Once you cut a big rectangle in siding, your options are limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dueport Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, ILoveC4 said: The screen on the T4 is great. It’s much faster and more performant...and the audio aspects of the intercom work better. The chime is great, but it’s a surface Mount thing. Looks similar to the Vivint doorbell or a classier version of the ring. I like how the DS2 Mini is flush mounted in the wall. It also makes it easier because moving to the chime I’d have to fill in the hole on the front of my house where the DS2 Mini is. If you’re buying today and replacing an old surface mount doorbell, get the Chime. No reason to “upgrade” from a DS2 mini though - not that I can see. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Residential Life review does say it is surface mount and may need a small gang box for poe. “Control4 will offer a new construction box that is a half-gang size that accepts the Chime mount, as well as an adapter plate for single-gang wall boxes.” Edited October 16, 2020 by Dueport Error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Do we know the Chime is actually surface mount? It sure looks that way in the pictures but the install guide says it mounts to a half single gang box I believe. I don’t have it in front of me but read something like that. This would be a huge problem in my case where we have cedar shingles for siding and currently a ring surface mounted to that with a hole for the two doorbell wires. Had hoped to pull a cat6 to the doorbell by accessing the other side of the wall but I’m not cutting any gang box into the siding so I’d prefer surface mount. Maybe I misread the manual?I’ve not seen the manual but I’ve got the product right here, and it’s indeed surface mount. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dueport Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, ILoveC4 said: I’ve not seen the manual but I’ve got the product right here, and it’s indeed surface mount. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My apologies I confused things - I thought I’d seen the manual online but I confused it with the Residential Life review - I edited my post to reflect. They do discuss mounting there but it is to say it is surface not flush mount and poe has limited gang box options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, ILoveC4 said: I’ve not seen the manual but I’ve got the product right here, and it’s indeed surface mount. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Does it come with the mounting plates described in the review (specifically the single gang plate)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Anyone seen the installation instructions yet for Chime? Since these are shipping now I would think it’s available to download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Anyone seen the installation instructions yet for Chime? Since these are shipping now I would think it’s available to download. They are not shipping till NovSent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Ari says he has 4 coming tomorrow. Apparently POE satin nickel is the only one shipping today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Also I just ordered the 10” T4. Shipping late November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Does it come with the mounting plates described in the review (specifically the single gang plate)? I’m guessing so, but I’ve not seen a retail unit. This is black and was never packaged for retail. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Did you try out the 8" or 10" T4? I'm debating which size to purchase. Also, with the new Chime, when someone presses the button, does video/audio start up pretty much instantaneously on the T4 screen? I'm guessing the video feed is local to the T4, and doesn't have to upload to the cloud first. Do you know if that's true? ThanksI don’t know the mechanics of it, but in my limited use it’s fast. Like I said, I’ve got a DS2 Mini so this hasn’t been installed in a real world situation with frequent use. I forgot to add one of my favorite things with the T4 is how it magnetically attaches to the charging pedestal. No more instances where someone thinks they set it on the charging pedestal but didn’t have it quite perfect. It snaps itself nicely in to place. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, msgreenf said: They are not shipping till Nov That’s the wireless version. I’ll have a PoE version next week thanks to an awesome dealer (Ari). Talking to someone about getting a custom mounting plate made (plastic) that could be used temporarily until a metal one can be fabricated but need exact product measurements first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, ILoveC4 said: I don’t know the mechanics of it, but in my limited use it’s fast. Like I said, I’ve got a DS2 Mini so this hasn’t been installed in a real world situation with frequent use. I forgot to add one of my favorite things with the T4 is how it magnetically attaches to the charging pedestal. No more instances where someone thinks they set it on the charging pedestal but didn’t have it quite perfect. It snaps itself nicely in to place. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ok so you have the tabletop T4, right? Mine will be wall mounted, but even that looks better than T3 mounting scheme, based on the T4 installation manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 In case anyone wonders why the touchscreens are so expensive it is that the people who buy enough to fill a whole house with them will pay $1k just as easily as they would pay $500. The people who would potentially buy 1 for their whole house (like myself) if they were $500 wouldn’t make up the difference. cnicholson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Ok so you have the tabletop T4, right? Mine will be wall mounted, but even that looks better than T3 mounting scheme, based on the T4 installation manual. I’ve got both. The wall mount is very similar to the T3 but you don’t need anything special you just yank it off the wall. It’s thicker than I’d like it to be - that’s my only complaint. It’s solid though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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