dutsnekcirf Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just moved into a new house. There's space right above the fireplace for a TV. There's already power, an HDMI cable, and two coax cables run to the space. I've been trying to figure out how to run some ethernet cable to the wall as well and am having difficulty. I've extended an IR bud using ethernet before so I'm comfortable with doing that. How about using one of the coax cable runs to extend an IR bud? Or is it possible to do that with the HDMI cable and still be able to transport video over the line as well? Or, is it possible to have an IR emitter pointing at the TV from couch that the TV will pick up rather than attaching the IR bud directly to the IR receiver on the TV? What are my options if I can't get ethernet to the wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Paxton Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 The best way out of this situation would be a Control4 Zigbee to IR kit, Sits behind the Tv and is powered by a 5V usb. Another option is these https://www.amazon.co.uk/Neet®-HDMI-Injector-Updated-location/dp/B00HR7LE4A/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1487966230&sr=8-5&keywords=ir+over+hdmi Have used them a few times and most of the time they have been perfect ( avoid the £10 bay kits) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfloydhdmedia Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I have spliced Ir into a coax cable before when in a pinch. Definitely wouldn't recommend it, but it does work. Neither situation was a very far run though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitali Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 solutions for you: 1. If it is not very long run, just use coax, nothing wrong with it. 2. There is ir kit for hdmi cable, receiver with hdmi plug one side, emitter with hdmi plug the other side. 3. Ir other zigbee. All will work Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Give the coax a try. If spliced properly it wont hurt anything. Used it in a pinch, definitely not prefered but if it works it better than buying a zigbee to ir wjej not needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEORY Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I've done it numerous times there is no issue at all. Sure it would be great to have a different wire type that is easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokead Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 How about this: https://www.control4.com/docs/product/zigbee-to-ir-module/data-sheet/english/latest/zigbee-to-ir-module-data-sheet-rev-a.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Splice it on the coax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Not a problem to send it over coax. Not the easiest wire to connect to - and make look decent - and very overdone if other wires are available, but work perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutsnekcirf Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Thanks for all the comments. I couldn't respond sooner because my internet went out. New house issues. I'm a little uncertain about HOW to splice it on the coax. I know I've got the center conductor and the shield that I can use but how on earth am I supposed to splice them together? What about this guy? https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=9964 This is an IR Extender of HDMI for a reasonable price. I also like the Control4 Z2iR zigbee module. But I bet that costs a fair penny compared to the monoprice solution above. But I'm sure it'd work great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 You splice is with a bit of solder and tape, or dolphin/bean style crimps or..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Solder and tape gets my vote as the dolphins arent particularly best for the center conductor but depends on the toold you have. Polarity doesnt really matter when choosing the center conductor and shield of the rg6 to the emitter leads as long as it is the same on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINCELdUB Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Use an rca female to mini mono female one on end. Use an rca female to mini mono male on the other to plug directly into controller. Terminate the coax with rca connectors. This is the best way to ensure clean look and repurposing later if needed. Happy Automating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I have used the phone line to do this in the past as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitali Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Dont overcomplicate it. Ir blaster 2 conductors, coax 2 conductors. Cut ir cable and Connect just as is, be carful with polarity. It wont damage, just won't work, if it doesn't just change connection on one of sides. Thats it. If your cable doesn't have splitters it just will work with out any problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I'm with Vinceldub in converting to mini mono with one additional mention. If it's already terminated as an F-type screw-on coaxial on both ends and if you don't already own an RCA crimping tool then you could use this: https://www.amazon.com/cable-F-pin-Female-Adapter-200-117/dp/B000I965ZC which screws onto an F-type coax and turns it into a 3.5mm mono male. Put those on both ends, and then a barrel on one end: https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-GMM-303-3-5mm-TRS-Coupler/dp/B000068O4N and you should be able to plug right into your IR blaster on both ends with no new tools or crimping needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutsnekcirf Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 Wow! So many responses. I like the F-Type screw on to 3.5 mm mono connector solution. It's very clean and priced just right. Thanks everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Is 40 ft too far to splice cat-5 for ir bud run? Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownbatsbreath Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, Jeffrey said: Is 40 ft too far to splice cat-5 for ir bud run? Jeff No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Thanks. Solder or mechanical connection better?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINCELdUB Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Solder will always be best. However, a compression f-type connector on coax and a f-type female to mono mini male/female is also very stable. Happy Automating!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINCELdUB Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 As a reminder, this works very well also. Happy Automating!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownbatsbreath Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I mean solder is better, but a well done mechanical connection would work just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forum Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 If I saw a tech using a soldering iron on a project, I'd be like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 38 minutes ago, forum said: If I saw a tech using a soldering iron on a project, I'd be like... Like what? You mean, hey you actually care to make this a permanent connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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