dcovach Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Just now, AshMania said: Can you please let me know what the KB article number is? Thanks 2551 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshMania Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 3:27 PM, blackfiveo1 said: Networking price(hardware) looks high to me, and you could probably save a few thousand on the 4k video matrix as well Here is an 8x8 https://www.amazon.com/SWITCHER-SELECTOR-CRESTRON-CONTROL4-AUTOMATION/dp/B07D7XCPDF/ref=lp_15343946011_1_1?srs=15343946011&ie=UTF8&qid=1527622102&sr=8-1&th=1 EDIT: DAMN this includes 8 baluns!!!! so its way less than half the price some guy bought one of these a few months back and said it was working just fine in his environment. I dont even think the Control4 one is HDR 4K 60hz YUV444 but dont quote me on that This is what I believe most people run from a WAP: supports 2.4/5ghz https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-802-11ac-Dual-Radio-UAP-AC-PRO-US/dp/B015PRO512/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1527622287&sr=1-1&keywords=ubiquiti+wap The product is making major claims - of being able to support 18Gbps, is YUV444 compliant and has C4 drivers - not to mention an excellent price for the package as well. Any folks here who have tried this product? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pounce Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, AshMania said: Any folks here who have tried this product? https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R541WRJ50POVQ/ref=cm_cr_othr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01GKFQNG8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkoos Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 So I posted about some audio problems I'm having in a separate thread: If the problems are related to my current matrix, the new matrix that is included in this quote should cover those problems, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pounce Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, pinkoos said: If the problems are related to my current matrix, the new matrix that is included in this quote should cover those problems, right? I believe your quote is for a video matrix. That is different than an audio matrix. Not sure what is wrong with your audio matrix, but it's maybe not likely that changing your video matrix will resolve your audio matrix issue. At any rate you probably want your selected dealer to solve your audio problem while they are upgrading you. Are you price sensitive? I think you have gotten some good advice here. I think your choices are: Go with the quote Find another dealer Adjust your equipment list to save money and hope for a pleasant experience Change gears completely and use Video Storm and ubiquiti etc. Out of curiosity, what sort of work are you in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkoos Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 So my current AVocation Systems Matrix Router is a combo video/audio matrix? I think I'm confused as to what I currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkoos Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, pinkoos said: So my current AVocation Systems Matrix Router is a combo video/audio matrix? I think I'm confused as to what I currently have. If it's audio only, then how is my video currently getting distributed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pounce Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 No idea what you have. Don't think we are commenting on what you own. The item on your list isn't an audio matrix and wont be replacing the audio matrix function of your current system. Perhaps the dealer planned to leverage your existing matrix for audio only after adding the HDMI matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkoos Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 But in general, if I don't have a video matrix right now, how would video be distributed normally? I know you all don't know what I have, but I can list from top to bottom the main components in my rack (leaving out cable modems, routers, DVD players, streaming devices, Tivos, etc.): HC800 HC300 AVocation Systems Matrix Router Denon AVR Control4 Amplifier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pounce Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 As you mentioned yourself, you have a AVocation Systems Matrix Router. That's a combo unit when I google it. Both Audio and Video. Pull the model number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkoos Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pounce said: As you mentioned yourself, you have a AVocation Systems Matrix Router. That's a combo unit when I google it. Both Audio and Video. Pull the model number. Okay, thanks, will have to get the model number tonight. Thanks again for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pounce Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Sure. I think you will benefit from working with a dealer that you can trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 The Avocation switchers were component video and coaxial/stereo audio units. That is what you are currently using. The Leaf switcher in your quote does have stereo audio downmixing, but that would be for your video sources only. If you have several audio only units, which I suspect, like controller outputs, then the Leaf switcher won't be of much help there. What kind of C4 amp do you have?? Is it just a dumb amp or is it the matrix switching version? (Model numbers will certainly help here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkoos Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 Would have to get model numbers tonight, but from my original work order from 8 years ago: Control4 8 channel amplifier Avocation Systems; 8x4 HDTV Matrix Switcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_ Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Now that I’m upgrading TVs that I originally purchased in 2008/9, I find that there is no need for a video matrix. I have Plex installed and all my new TVs have the Plex app (pay for pro and it is totally worth it). I can stream all my personal content and movies. Each TV has apps for everything else. I don’t have cable TV anymore either so the need of a matrix is further reduced. The older kitchen TV (a Sony Google TV - yeah I bought one of them, laugh at me) now has a Fire TV stick and it has gone from a huge paperweight to a TV. You can prolly replace all your TVs in the cost of that matrix. Also, I have Ubiquiti APs and they are the bomb. AJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 48 minutes ago, achoudhary said: Now that I’m upgrading TVs that I originally purchased in 2008/9, I find that there is no need for a video matrix. I have Plex installed and all my new TVs have the Plex app (pay for pro and it is totally worth it). I can stream all my personal content and movies. Each TV has apps for everything else. I don’t have cable TV anymore either so the need of a matrix is further reduced. The older kitchen TV (a Sony Google TV - yeah I bought one of them, laugh at me) now has a Fire TV stick and it has gone from a huge paperweight to a TV. You can prolly replace all your TVs in the cost of that matrix. Also, I have Ubiquiti APs and they are the bomb. AJ Right until the Plex app stops working because the TVm manufacturer stop supporting it - just get a local player with plex and the other apps if that is what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_ Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cyknight said: Right until the Plex app stops working because the TVm manufacturer stop supporting it - just get a local player with plex and the other apps if that is what you want. I agree but really cannot do much about it. It's like Blu-Ray vs HD DVD. Even Control4 is retiring stuff much to my displeasure. Looks like my pre-T3 touchscreens will be phased out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 30 minutes ago, achoudhary said: I agree but really cannot do much about it. It's like Blu-Ray vs HD DVD. Even Control4 is retiring stuff much to my displeasure. Looks like my pre-T3 touchscreens will be phased out soon. Except that you can CHOOSE to stay where you are - once the apps on the TV stops working (and they pretty much always do), it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatheed Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Cyknight said: Except that you can CHOOSE to stay where you are - once the apps on the TV stops working (and they pretty much always do), it's done. And at that point, he can get streaming boxes if it makes sense. There's little reason to spend extra money now if it's not needed. He may not need them in the future, but he definitely doesn't need them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pounce Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I think we have the OP and someone else jumped in that is not the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 On 6/14/2018 at 3:25 PM, thegreatheed said: And at that point, he can get streaming boxes if it makes sense. There's little reason to spend extra money now if it's not needed. He may not need them in the future, but he definitely doesn't need them now. True, but getting some (cheap) boxes installed also ensures universal functionality across all devices, not to mention that for 99% of TVs, the control of apps etc through Control4 is not that great, whereas products like Roku, Android TV, FireTV and even AppleTV have proven drivers with a lot of functionality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheaterExtreme Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm curious.... why not just ask the dealer to give you cheaper gear? I don't get it..... you have champagne taste.... champagne money but only want to pay beer prices.... not judging just a little confused. I got a friend of mine building a 16,000 sqf house..... wants everything I have ( a 50k system) but don't want to pay.... I dont get it... maybe someone can explain this to me. just my thought.... I have no buyers remorse... be happy spend the little extra and get what makes you happy. or buy cheap and buy twice because of all the issues you start to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkoos Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 Not sure where you got an idea of what kind of taste I have or how much money I have, but when you have to come out and say that you're not judging, well, you are. However, I do appreciate all those who responded with *helpful* information. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pounce Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 So what did you end up doing? Been a while. Curious what you installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkoos Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 Still in the process of getting quotes - waiting on my original installer to come back with a quote (they walked through more than 2 weeks ago). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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