samsmoothjazz Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, tmj4 said: We (Epic Systems) will be starting our development on a driver for the Carrier Infinity system soon (likely in the next week or so). We already have a signed developer/integrator contract with Carrier and will working with C4 to ensure proper end-user auth this week. Fantastic! - so glad you guys are going to take this on. There are so many of us out there that need something better! - ideally local IP control. What concerns me is relying on their awful cloud which could be part of the issue. WisC4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob21 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, tmj4 said: We (Epic Systems) will be starting our development on a driver for the Carrier Infinity system soon (likely in the next week or so). We already have a signed developer/integrator contract with Carrier and will working with C4 to ensure proper end-user auth this week. Can’t wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERDrPC Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Rob21 said: Can’t wait. Agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 20 hours ago, tmj4 said: We (Epic Systems) will be starting our development on a driver for the Carrier Infinity system soon (likely in the next week or so). We already have a signed developer/integrator contract with Carrier and will working with C4 to ensure proper end-user auth this week. Will end users have to pay for the driver or is Carrier paying for everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj4 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Just now, zaphod said: Will end users have to pay for the driver or is Carrier paying for everything? This is a driver being developed by us (Epic Systems) for sale by Epic Systems. Other than Carrier needing to provide official access to their cloud API, they are not involved in the process nor have provided any financial backing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Ok, thanks. I was hoping this was a driver that was fully funded by the third party hardware company, but that is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisC4 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, tmj4 said: This is a driver being developed by us (Epic Systems) for sale by Epic Systems. Other than Carrier needing to provide official access to their cloud API, they are not involved in the process nor have provided any financial backing. Will be very happy to purchase if it works better than the current driver! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob21 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, WisC4 said: Will be very happy to purchase if it works better than the current driver! Just out of curiosity, do you have any experience with the current driver? If you do can you please explain how it works and how it performs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4 User Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, tmj4 said: This is a driver being developed by us (Epic Systems) for sale by Epic Systems. Other than Carrier needing to provide official access to their cloud API, they are not involved in the process nor have provided any financial backing. I will be happy to pay for the driver. Also happy to test once available. This is a driver we have been waiting a long time for. Rob21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsmoothjazz Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 Include me for sure! - Would be very happy to test it once in beta. The existing driver never worked for me. I tried over and over with their tech support which ultimately just faded away. It did confirm it had access to the Carrier Cloud but when I would make temp changes - nothing. I have two full infinity systems each with three zones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisC4 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, Rob21 said: Just out of curiosity, do you have any experience with the current driver? If you do can you please explain how it works and how it performs. Tried for about 2 years to get DriversLab/Homeation Carrier Infinity driver to work - but it never did and then gave up. Don't know if it's all faulty coding, or lack of proper setup, but never worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob21 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, WisC4 said: Tried for about 2 years to get DriversLab/Homeation Carrier Infinity driver to work - but it never did and then gave up. Don't know if it's all faulty coding, or lack of proper setup, but never worked. How was the driver supposed to communicate? Serial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj4 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, C4 User said: This is a driver we have been waiting a long time for Absolutely! That's why we're so excited and proud to be able to develop and bring this driver to integrators/dealers and the C4forums community! Stay posted! C4 User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsmoothjazz Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 Yup - same thing here. Like I said, even Carrier's own app sucks and takes a very long time from the time you enter a change to the thermostat until it actually registers. Ideally we could have direct IP local control? - I found the lead guy on LinkedIn at Carrier who deals with this. His name is Frank David. We exchanged emails in August 2021. This is what he said: "Sam, Thank you for purchasing Infinity products and yes, using the Infinity system control is required to get the advanced features for variable speed. We have some work to do to get connected with smart home integrations. We are currently working to improve our customer experience with third party integrations such as Contol4 and Apple HomeKit and others. I can’t give you specifics yet on when they will be available but know that we are working toward greater integration to smart home systems." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsmoothjazz Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 Maybe everyone should email this guy and say WTF? frank.david@carrier.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsmoothjazz Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 He is the product manager - Thermostats and Controls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4 User Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 It seams the time for blasting the Carrier product manger has passed. Why don’t we just let @tmj4 do their thing since they seam to have carrier’s support. tmj4 and Rob21 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsmoothjazz Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 Agreed - it's time these carrier guys realize that they need to play ball properly. My old Ecobee was so fast and easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob21 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, tmj4 said: Absolutely! That's why we're so excited and proud to be able to develop and bring this driver to integrators/dealers and the C4forums community! Stay posted! Please try to provide options for serial and/or LAN control rather than relying on the cloud. Not sure if this is your choice but I figured I would ask. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, tmj4 said: Absolutely! That's why we're so excited and proud to be able to develop and bring this driver to integrators/dealers and the C4forums community! Stay posted! Just to clarify - this will work via IP and you won't need the serial interface for this new driver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERDrPC Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 What if I already have the Cam installed with serial connection. Never added the current driver as I heard not so great things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj4 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 11:52 PM, zaphod said: Just to clarify - this will work via IP and you won't need the serial interface for this new driver? That is correct; this will be utilizing the OpenAPI cloud platform used by Carrier, Bryant and a whole slew of other brands under that umbrella. C4 User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerm1 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 2:56 PM, tmj4 said: That is correct; this will be utilizing the OpenAPI cloud platform used by Carrier, Bryant and a whole slew of other brands under that umbrella. Any updates on the driver ? Rob21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmj4 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 6:20 PM, Jerm1 said: Any updates on the driver ? Development is underway and making progress! No further updates at this time. Rob21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERDrPC Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 7 hours ago, tmj4 said: Development is underway and making progress! No further updates at this time. Will your new driver work with systems that have the carrier SAM module installed? I never bought the original driver to test as I was told it wasn't reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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