eggzlot Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 A wise man @msgreenf once gave me this idea because I suck at terminating wires. to me punch down is easier. So get a punch down jack (link below) and then 6” or 1’ stock made Ethernet cables. If it’s hidden in the ceiling who cares. I have a dozen camera wired up this way https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=5379&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8rT8BRCbARIsALWiOvR_uUPMIdFGTcDdR6ww-i7Fn2F59mnlseuvAXSFnzbokubBJl-WuxwaAh-kEALw_wcB msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanDad Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 If it's your first time trying to terminate CAT6 cable, then your best friends are plugs with load bars/inserts. I use the Monoprice ones with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 I know some folks suggest staying away from EZ crimps, but I’ve been using Platinum Tools EZ crimp system, and have not had a single problem in over 7 years. So much easier than traditional crimp connectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, dinom said: I know some folks suggest staying away from EZ crimps, but I’ve been using Platinum Tools EZ crimp system, and have not had a single problem in over 7 years. So much easier than traditional crimp connectors. Same with me... Curious what is the issue with these connectors that some have experienced? I test every one of my terminations with a Fluke tester and have never seen anything crop up as a problem but maybe I need to be looking out for something that I'm not aware of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjbasford Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 the wire ends can stick out of the connector and cause damage to the equipment that it is plugged into Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, mjbasford said: the wire ends can stick out of the connector and cause damage to the equipment that it is plugged into so a visual inspection is good enough to catch this? or is not able to be picked up by the eye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjbasford Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 If it fails a visual inspection, it likely will not work at all, but even passing a visual inspection, damage can occur. Take 2 ends, one standard and one EZ, you can feel the wire ends on the EZ connector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, mjbasford said: If it fails a visual inspection, it likely will not work at all, but even passing a visual inspection, damage can occur. Take 2 ends, one standard and one EZ, you can feel the wire ends on the EZ connector. Thanks, and how does the problem manifest itself... The port stops working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 Since my thread has turned into an RJ45 discussion I found this video for doing POE with EZ crimp if one is concerned with shorting or protruding wires. Seems simple enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 hours ago, dinom said: Since my thread has turned into an RJ45 discussion I found this video for doing POE with EZ crimp if one is concerned with sorting or protruding wires. Seems simple enough. Sorry my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAutomationNerd Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I wouldn't deal with injectors. Just put a POE Switch on the other end of the cable. You can then easily power the switch with a UPS as well. Once you have POE, you'll not go back. Camera's, T3s, Doorbells, Control4 EA1 and EA3s, etc. Not having to separately manage power is... great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Here is where I’m at right now. Wall box installed and CAT6 pulled. Just primed and painted the drywall too. Next is to terminate the CAT6 on both ends, install a PoE injector, and wait for the T4 to arrive. Can’t wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Progress pictures coming soon, but I ran out of space to upload more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dinom Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 Anyone hear when the T4 might be shipping? November is almost gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Still 11 days until the end of November.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 True, but there is a holiday in there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 it is supposed ship late Nov. It's not late Nov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Köhler Medientechnik Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Sounds like a housewife is getting impatient over a huge hole in the wall. macosr and msgreenf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 Well, it’s gone from a huge hole, to a smaller hole, but yeah Ok, I’ll revisit in 11 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 I want to replace my indoor Nest cams with a C4 compatible one. Also want to add an outdoor camera or two to monitor the back door and backyard area. I want these to be viewable on both the T4 and the C4 app. What about something like this to replace the indoor units? https://www.snapav.com/shop/en/snapav/luma-trade%3B-surveillance-300-series-cube-ip-indoor-camera-lum-300-cub-ipw Do I also need an NVR to make this all work? How much $$ are we talking about for say 4-6 total cameras (including a new Chime, when I finally add that next year)? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, dinom said: I’m want to replace my indoor Nest cams with a C4 compatible one. Also want to add an outdoor camera or two to monitor the back door and backyard area. I want these to be viewable on both the T4 and the C4 app. What about something like this to replace the indoor units? https://www.snapav.com/shop/en/snapav/luma-trade%3B-surveillance-300-series-cube-ip-indoor-camera-lum-300-cub-ipw Do I also need an NVR to make this all work? How much $$ are we talking about for say 4-6 total cameras (including a new Chime, when I finally add that next year)? Thanks. There is a lot of compatibility if all you want to do is view the cameras on a touchscreen and app although I have not been able to find the user experience anywhere close to the native app of the camera company. I use to have SnapAV cameras and they were good, just overly priced imho. I currently use Unifi Cameras / NVR and they achieve what you want and allow viewing through C4 through the generic IP driver but the experience is slow as mentioned. If you want to view on a TV, viewing on some of the direct view apps via Apple TV are much quicker. Now if you want to access DVR functions, you need a camera setup with full C4 integration or as I understand it, cameras with open sytems that can work with C4 integrated software like Blue Iris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, dinom said: I’m want to replace my indoor Nest cams with a C4 compatible one. Also want to add an outdoor camera or two to monitor the back door and backyard area. I want these to be viewable on both the T4 and the C4 app. What about something like this to replace the indoor units? https://www.snapav.com/shop/en/snapav/luma-trade%3B-surveillance-300-series-cube-ip-indoor-camera-lum-300-cub-ipw Do I also need an NVR to make this all work? How much $$ are we talking about for say 4-6 total cameras (including a new Chime, when I finally add that next year)? Thanks. I would go for Hikvision and Alan Driver https://www.hikvision.com/en/products/IP-Products/Network-Cameras/Pro-Series-EasyIP-/DS-2CD2443G0-I-W-/ No need for NVR and Photos within Push Notifications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, dinom said: I’m want to replace my indoor Nest cams with a C4 compatible one. Also want to add an outdoor camera or two to monitor the back door and backyard area. I want these to be viewable on both the T4 and the C4 app. What about something like this to replace the indoor units? https://www.snapav.com/shop/en/snapav/luma-trade%3B-surveillance-300-series-cube-ip-indoor-camera-lum-300-cub-ipw Do I also need an NVR to make this all work? How much $$ are we talking about for say 4-6 total cameras (including a new Chime, when I finally add that next year)? Thanks. If you don’t have an NVR you won’t tape anything. So if there is an issue there is no record to pull off a hard drive. Defeats the main purpose of security cameras if you ask me regardless of c4 in the mix or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 Thanks all, yes I would need/want to record cameras and keep footage for at least 5 to 7 days, similar to what I can do with Nest cloud recording. Does the UniFi NVR integrate with C4? When you say it’s slow, which aspects are slow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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