Time2Jet

or you just login to the Router UI and see everything...I don't understand how that is any different? its your hardware, ask for the password and login

it's second best, the best is a piece is still a paperclip (to push that reset button) 🤣

Good News.
 
Just back and decided to reboot our EA-5 Controller by physically turning it off, waiting 15 minutes before turning back on - thankfully our system is back up and running - all Keypads and sensors working.
 
Happy days 🙂

Consumer unit is similar to a breaker panel. Power distribution in the home. 

Yes. But you can also do hold to dim (or hold to brighten) on that same button.
I initially played with the up down buttons for lights making them change based on the scene - it was a disaster (likely due to my programming, but it was just too hard for us to remember).
I've learned to leave the keypads with the up down to be "fixed" to whatever button is above it (in our case, volume for music). In the few spots I have double gang keypads, I only put the up down button set on 1 of the keypads and just use a regular button on the other.
I think domo has some cool drivers to make the up down assign to the last button you clicked (and then go back to something default). I don't remember which one though. 

For me individually the size and feel of the remote was the primary difference and better experience.  In addition we don't use any of the number, info, etc items on the non-Touch so it became an extra amount of 'real estate' on the remote that wasn't needed.  We had DirecTV still while using the non-Touch at the same as doing a trial on YouTube TV to see if we liked it in preparation for NFL sunday ticket.  When using the DirecTV we used the number functions quite a bit since we knew the channel numbers of preference to go to.  However, when we were using YouTube TV, the other streaming apps on Apple TV & Roku, and Kaleidescape we never used the additional buttons on the non-Halo Touch.  Then when we purchased 1 Halo Touch I set it up and gave that one along with the non-Touch to the wife.  By this point we had removed DirecTV and now just distributing Apple TV throughout the home.  After the few days of her use, she much preferred the Touch version.  The primary reasons for her was the size, touch functions for the lights and thermostat, and comparability to the NEEO and iOS app she used (she never liked the SR260).   
The other reason was we have family visit a lot and they were familiar with the NEEO's in the guest bedrooms so this was a more natural progression for them we felt.  So far no regrets

So far so good with the Halo touch remotes.  I bought 3 non-touch originally to try them for 4 months.  Those were a better user experience to the SR260's and concurred by the wife which is a large factor.  We received 1 touch remote 2 weeks ago and within a matter of days it was the go-to choice when they were sitting next to each other as an option.  Our use case is Apple TV and Kaleidescape so it's not taken thru a ton of paces or customizations; we use Josh for other control commands and at present some of those items like shades are not available as we know on the remote. Battery life is treated like a phone.  Charger is within a few feet of seating / bed areas (5 additional units at present) and battery life is a non-factor as a result.  Responsiveness has been good and no drops or reliability issues in the few weeks of owning so purchased more thru the dealer.  The non-touch was no issues either.  As far as voice, it's non-committal yet since Josh is used in those zones.  For a few zones where don't have it installed, we are holding out between integrating Siri or if Josh/Control4 start acting in the best interest of the customer base and get the integration for the remotes done.  Sold the 3 non-Touch so we are 'pot-committed' for the Touch units for the foreseeable future.

I think more than anything, the issue everyone is having with SR/Neeo/Halo/Touch remotes is just the inconsistencies in how they operate. Is that a reason to complain? I’m not sure anymore. For the foreseeable future, C4 is offering all 4 to dealers (albeit, most dealers try to limit offerings to the current direction unless the client requests otherwise). I think my biggest issue is that Halo isn’t really a consistent platform, considering the Tactile & Touch versions work differently. It takes a minute to adjust if you have both in different rooms of your home. That’s my biggest gripe, but I’m glad to be complaining. I still think they are fantastic remotes (other than us all being spoiled by the SR & Neeo battery life). But if you consider your phone goes on a charger nightly, it’s to a degree, expected.


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The looks shot between Snap & Josh when passing each other's booths.

Lol the booths are at opposite ends. 

The looks shot between Snap & Josh when passing each other's booths.

The looks shot between Snap & Josh when passing each other's booths.

Yes, they can keep the same SSID's, they will know how to do that, but you'll want to reinforce that to them.  Why do you want the Unifi network?  If your dealer wants to put in a different network, my point is "let them".  They have to support it.  And maybe another dealer can chime in, but I think an Araknis/Eero rooter to tooter network is supported directly by Control4 tech, which gives you an extra layer of comfort knowing they can support you via any Control4 dealer, regardless of what dealer put it in.

In no way is this a knock on Unifi, but for just a home AV network you won't experience any appreciable difference over the others.  If you came here telling us that you love Unifi protect cameras, etc... they I would say 100% Unifi is the way to go.  A ton of dealer/techs (and most of my buddies) use Unifi in their own projects because they like the "at a glance" look at the network and the Unifi camera app is crazy nice over others right now.  But - my buddies are tech guys that understand networking.  If you want a network to run your home automation system and be able to connect your phone and devices to wifi, go with your Dealer's recommendation.  

Best of luck!  You are asking good questions.

Going here - first time attendee.  Must see's for me:
Kaleidescape new Terra SSD's Crestron Home 4.0 SnapOne indoor & outdoor experience centers.  Includes new OS update to Control4 Grimani Systems/Storm/MadVR theater demo Josh.ai Lighting solutions (Colorbeam, Ketra, DMF) Savant AVPro/Audio Control since mergered/acquistion

His handle is one letter short of an explanation for that...  @diwit just having fun at your expense. 

His handle is one letter short of an explanation for that...  @diwit just having fun at your expense. 

Why are you asking a plumbing question in a Home Automation Forum, in response to a post about the electrical hook up of a garbage disposal?
RyanE

I agree with @gregheard regarding the AVPro 24x24 matrix.  It's really hard to overlook the support and warranty.  Plus, it does a little more natively with being able to feed it audio back from a display for instance (up to 130m via a balun or out to a zone via a balun).  That's not a knock on Triad, as I use it in my office and it's been great.  But I have 3 AVPro 24x24 in the wild with zero issues so far.  The driver is bulletproof as well.  I think most AVPro products play very nice with C4 and to be honest, I think you'll save money with AVPro versus 2 Triad Matrix's.  

MoIP is great, but MXNet is an upgrade. Not by leaps and bounds. The original MXNet 1g product line was very similar to MoIP 900 series. (4K HDR @444 was limited to 30hz - most of us wouldn’t care to be honest), but has a better interface for the installer.

A good solution here could be the modular AxionX platform by AVPro. It allows for video matrixing (via HDMI and HDBT Sources and HDBT or HDMI outputs) as well as audio independent matrixing. (There are also some crazy modular upgrades that does mission critical video scaling “think medical applications”.) The max on a single unit is 16x16 (independent audio streams count as inputs against the 16 Ins). But the units can be looped out and stacked (AVPro will customize a stack solution to get you to 21 zones). Regardless of any of these solutions, you will still need amplification. I don’t mind Triad one bit. I haven’t experienced the same issues others mention. Triad has been solid amplification for our clients. AVPro just bought AudioControl which is another gold standard company (in terms of product quality). They mfr audio products such as AVRs, amplification and distributed audio. This allows you to have your entire AV distribution project heavily supported and warranted.

Give them a call, they are really nice people with crazy expertise in AV distribution. If ever needed, support will be second to none.

Feel free to DM me and I can give you some names to speak to at AVPro. They can elaborate and recommend a solution to you (or your dealer) that will work very well and provide you with a minimum of 10 years of peace of mind. They’ll likely be able to send you a recommended solution that you can hand over to your dealer. These are pro and enterprise grade devices that are not sold direct to consumer.

As far as pricing, be prepared to pay a premium, but considering that you will enjoy this equipment for at least a decade supported, do you really pay a premium? I still have plenty of AVPro Connect (prior company name) devices working flawlessly in the field for over 12 years. Jeff and Matt are hands on owners and attract and hire the best engineers in the industry. Although we all know AVPro for Residential and Commercial AV, their products underly mission critical applications in medical and transportation etc., (in areas where there has to be near zero tolerance for failure).


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I do intercom commands using Josh all the time.  it can send commands you audibly state throughout all speakers in the house on demand.  I also have the 2N (control4 branded) door station have notifications pop-up on phone and answer and unlock thru Josh.  Have same on C4 as well.  For weather I get weather updates when I ask thru the phone, micro, nano's etc every day.

I use IRUSB on my two fire TVs, although they are Toshiba brand. I can control those items with it. 

There’s an LG that I got my parents about 6 months ago.  IP driver works fine for it. 
 
Don’t remember the model though, sorry.  Pretty sure we got it at Best Buy. 

Josh Micro rings that bell and it can be plugged in and sit on a table like Alexa or via PoE*.  Room awareness is one of Josh's greatest attributes.  (*Micros can also be wall mounted and even recess mounted with a WallSmart)

Josh Micro rings that bell and it can be plugged in and sit on a table like Alexa or via PoE*.  Room awareness is one of Josh's greatest attributes.  (*Micros can also be wall mounted and even recess mounted with a WallSmart)

We normally agree on things, but I beg to differ here. In my opinion, true automation should lean toward less user interaction and more intuitiveness. This isn’t to say that Voice integration is “intuitive” per se, but certainly removes some of the physical actions required to fire a “then” scene (scene being a very common Josh term).

If you look back through some of my old posts I have always felt that the future of automation was voice, motion, occupancy and fencing (since they haven’t figured out how to read our minds… yet) via programming. When we walk into a room at a certain time or day, maybe certain lighting fires at one time, a different brightness fires at another time and potentially no lighting fires at another time. When someone is sensed in a room for a predefined period of time, maybe the temperature is adjusted differently. When you leave your home, certain “scenes” may fire and others when you arrive home. When another person leaves the home or arrives home, maybe any of those actions are different arrive/leave scenes depending upon if anyone is still or already in the home. Maybe a scene is fired when a vehicle arrives in your drive and maybe that’s different depending on which vehicle or what time it arrives. Maybe an event fires when someone enters a specific area of your home or property. And amongst many many other automations, maybe scenes fire based on time of day, day of the week, month or year. Could also be when you leave the home and rain is in the forecast, you’re sent a notification telling you not to forget your umbrella. The possibilities are endless.

Voice control, eliminates the need to rise out of your chair or bed, walk across the home or room and other overt physical actions to fire a device or scene or to check a status. In the most simple of benefits, Voice eliminates the need for fumbling for a remote or getting up to use a touchscreen.

Control4 is an automation platform and not simply a AV/lighting Remote Control system. We strive to make our home smart and work the way we live.

Josh integration is leaps and bounds above any of the other voice control systems in every way. Integrating Josh with Control4 creates a much more powerful home automation system than either as a standalone. Anything you can do in Control4 can be done via a voice command with Josh using natural language tailored specifically to you. “Hey Josh, who is at the front door” will show you the front door camera (Yea, even a Chime) on the display in the room you are in at that time. And the room level scenes feature allows you to say “Hey Josh, turn on the lamps” (or turn on the ceiling lights, turn off the TV, and turn on the music for example) and Josh knows to turn on the lamps only in the room you are in. If you call the foyer “foyer” and your kids call it the “entry” it doesn’t care. You can say “hey Josh, it’s a little warm in here” and Josh will lower the TStat. It also handles compound commands “do this, this and this” and it accommodates. When I leave carrying something to my car I can say “hey Josh I’m leaving, lock the door in 1 minute” so it gives me time to clear the door before it locks and fires my away scene”. And of course the most advertised feature is that you can walk into a room and say “hey Josh, turn on the lamps, close the shades and let’s watch S1E3 of Better Call Saul. Josh will deep dive programming for you. You can ask for a movie and it will find options for you. (During setup the Josh driver for Control4 finds all of your steaming services and you can prioritize both where it looks first for video or music).

Okay, that was a lot… but it’s my opinion that voice control is very important and Josh is the gold standard in that space, nothing else is remotely close today. It pains me as an end user and dealer for both products that they didn’t form a better alliance and they are at odds legally right now. It is in the best interests of both to resolve this quickly and to the benefit of each.