C4tune Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 My Roku runs through an HDMI audio extractor to my HDMI matrix so I can get audio into my 8 zone C4 Amp. Two days ago Netflix and HBOGo started telling me I am having an HDCP error. I am looking for a replacement Streaming Box that has direct mini app launch as well as an audio out port (so i don't need to use the audio extractor). The three apps I need are: Netflix, HBOGO, and Spotify. Thanks, Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The Xiaomi MiBox is a pretty good AndroidTV device and it is a 3.5mm audio jack on the back - this jack also does optical audio. Don't know about the direct mini app launch though. They are $69 at Walmart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vstar Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 if your current setup is doing what you want (with the exception of the HDCP error obviously) i have read (have not tested myself) from this and other sources: https://www.tweaking4all.com/home-theatre/remove-hdcp-hdmi-signal/ that if you put a cheap (non HDCP compliant) slitter after the source that it will strip the HDCP? possibly someone could confirm this who has tried it? apparently this model (amongst others in the article) have been reported as doing the job. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003UYOEMI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B003UYOEMI&linkCode=as2&tag=tweaki-20&linkId=OJPIO4MIXY4ZUXOD this way you would not have to have a dealer load new drivers for alternate device and re-do bindings and or any custom p[programming you may have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Every HDMI audio extractor I have worked with has some sort of configuration that needs to be done on them. Usually its at least the EDID settings. Have you tried making sure your EDID is set properly?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 45 minutes ago, zaphod said: The Xiaomi MiBox is a pretty good AndroidTV device and it is a 3.5mm audio jack on the back - this jack also does optical audio. Don't know about the direct mini app launch though. They are $69 at Walmart. I would rate a firetv higher since there is a way to control it via c4 though the MiBox seems cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Maybe you're right, especially if the rumours are correct and Amazon is about to launch a new FireTV with Alexa capabilities. They should also put an IR blaster into it and it could really be the heart of your AV system. The MiBox can be controlled via IR so it should be doable in C4 as long as you can map the buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4tune Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 Does anyone know of a streaming box that can launch mini apps (NETFLIX) at all, besides roku? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, C4tune said: Does anyone know of a streaming box that can launch mini apps (NETFLIX) at all, besides roku? FireTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4tune Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 and it has optical out, netflix, HBOGo and Spotify! This is the one! Heading to Target now! Thanks for the responses. Quite the honor to have a question answered by the c4forums famous msgreenf! (genuinely) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 20 hours ago, C4tune said: and it has optical out, netflix, HBOGo and Spotify! This is the one! Heading to Target now! Thanks for the responses. Quite the honor to have a question answered by the c4forums famous msgreenf! (genuinely) Just a heads-up, C4tune--Amazon has pulled the newest version of the Fire TV from the store as of Sept. 13. A new version will be dropping very, very soon. May be worth waiting to see what it adds before you purchase. You can see the info (and the leaked info of the new one) in the link below. https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/13/16302724/amazon-fire-tv-not-for-sale-taken-down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Uhm, the Roku Ultra has optical out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Yeah the Roku Ultra. Wired Internet and optical and hdmi out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/14/2017 at 8:36 AM, C4tune said: My Roku runs through an HDMI audio extractor to my HDMI matrix so I can get audio into my 8 zone C4 Amp. Two days ago Netflix and HBOGo started telling me I am having an HDCP error. I am looking for a replacement Streaming Box that has direct mini app launch as well as an audio out port (so i don't need to use the audio extractor). The three apps I need are: Netflix, HBOGO, and Spotify. Thanks, Jake keep in mind what ever you get you will need some kind of converter to get audio to your matrix is analog only. The roku is the best experience in my opinion, and if you get one of the new control4 matrices they have toslink audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidyloke Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Bear in mind the Roku 3's remote has a headphone socket. I've actually got this sat in my rack, attached to my c4 amp with a 3.5 to twin RCA cable and it works fine. There's also the volume button combination that allows audio out of both the headphone socket and HDMI at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4tune Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Tidyloke said: Bear in mind the Roku 3's remote has a headphone socket. I've actually got this sat in my rack, attached to my c4 amp with a 3.5 to twin RCA cable and it works fine. There's also the volume button combination that allows audio out of both the headphone socket and HDMI at the same time Tried that. Batteries went very quickly. Picked up the Roku Ultra and had the optical to stereo laying around. Works perfectly! No HDCP problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 hour ago, C4tune said: Tried that. Batteries went very quickly. Picked up the Roku Ultra and had the optical to stereo laying around. Works perfectly! No HDCP problem! Exactly. To me the Roku is still the nicest integrated option. Personalyl I have no HDCP issue even with audio extraction, but I get not wanting to spend 100 bucks to get a 100 bucks device working - hence me noting that the ultra has optical which would require a cheap device to make it stereo - spend the same, get a brand new updated version of what you have and keep the functionality you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videostorm Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 On 9/14/2017 at 11:42 AM, zaphod said: Maybe you're right, especially if the rumours are correct and Amazon is about to launch a new FireTV with Alexa capabilities. They should also put an IR blaster into it and it could really be the heart of your AV system. The MiBox can be controlled via IR so it should be doable in C4 as long as you can map the buttons. IR blaster for FireTV, Firestick, or any other Android device IrUSB Works with Alexa too Alexa demo vid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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