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    Line Voltage 50m RGBW LED strip with color and brightness control

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    8 minutes ago, ILoveC4 said:

    50M? No. I was not. I don’t know if that’s even possible. I started getting voltage drop around 25m. Are you unable to run more power parallel to the light strips?

    Hi @ILoveC4

    Yep. You can using line voltage LED strips. But I'm not sure whether we can have an additional channel to adjust brightness of the color we create.

    Yes I'm unable to run more parallels.

    LED Strips longer than 5m

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    On 1/11/2020 at 5:19 AM, c4toys said:

    I have a project with lumilum and dmx driver.. I extended the runs in between ceiling trays with electrical OS cable 18/4.. total 155-160ft..

    Hi @c4toys

    Can you change the brightness of a certain color between 0-100%. How many steps can we go for? 

    According to Lumilum dmx driverspecs : https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0184/0810/files/Lumilum_Product_Manual-LUM-B34XTS-DMX_3.pdf?64 
    The driver has only 8 levels of brightness, which is not enough for my customer. 

    I have highlighted what's provided in the specs in the link given below.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/m8tkx9qt4w51qbu/LumilumControllerBrightnessLevels.PNG?dl=0

     

    EA-5 controller, AMS & PAMP for each floor

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    2 hours ago, Crustyloafer said:

    That all makes sense in this scenario for the audio side of things and should work just fine. For any rooms/zones that would be difficult to wire for even to a central location on her same floor do consider using a Triad One locally for that zone as they also have the advantage that they can pull their own dedicated stream too.

    If you require more than 4 audio streams per floor, then it would definitely be worth considering doing with just Triad Ones only as they each can create their own stream and would work out more cost effective to get 8 streams. For example in the UK prices would work out as follows:

    2x EA-5, 1x AMS8, 1x PAMP8 = £5585 + VAT

    8x Triad One, 4x Triad One Rack Mount Kit = £4412 + VAT

    Regarding the lighting, are you doing panellised lighting?

    Why the need for 100+ network cables for lights? Surely you only need 1 network cable for each dimmer/relay module and even then they will be next to each other and so can all be connected to a single network switch or if using the new V2 modules they even have 2 port switch built into each of them and so can be daisy chained to each other. 100+ network cables for lighting suggests over 800 lighting circuits which cannot be true. 

    The alternative is to use keypad dimmers/switches which can be retrofitted in place of the existing switches and will require very little in the way of additional cabling at all.

    Hi @Crustyloafer

    Thanks a lot for your time.

    I need to use the RS232 ports of EA-5 as well. There will be so many touchscreens and a lot of sensors. So I don't want the system to lag.

    So I guess it's method 1 vs method 2 right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Method 1

    //Top Floor (12 Audio Zones)
    1 X EA-5, 1 X TS-AMS24, 1 X TS-PAMP8-100, 1 X TS-PAMP4-100        

    //Bottom Floor (13 Audio Zones)
    1 X EA-5, 1 X TS-AMS24, 2 X TS-PAMP8-100   

    Or according to the way you suggested..

    Method 2

    //Top Floor (12 Audio Zones)
    12 X TS-SAMP1-100

    //Bottom Floor (13 Audio Zones)
    1 X EA-5, 13 X TS-SAMP1-100

    --------------------------------------------------------------
    For Lighting we have decided to go with RGB lighting from Colorbeam (https://www.colorbeamlighting.com/). For each individual light control combination, we need to lay a network cable. So for the entire project just for lights, its around 102 network cables (Because of 102 individually controllable light points). Lights are entirely controlled with low voltage. They have their own dmx drivers and panels, similar to C4 centralized lighting.

    EA-5 controller, AMS & PAMP for each floor

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    https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdjfyf224i0qny5/MultiroomMusicCenVsDecenCropped.jpg?dl=0

    Hi @Tokead, @SMHarman, @Crustyloafer

    I have just sketched my idea of setting up Multi-room Audio for this project. The link to the image is given above.

    My other question is, by setting up according to this way, will I be able to access devices like pen drive, Bluesound vault 2i & etc connected to the EA-5 on the bottom floor, from the EA-5 on the top floor to play music in top floor audio zones?

    What would be the technical limitations by doing so?

    EA-5 controller, AMS & PAMP for each floor

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    Just now, Tokead said:


    You only need one controller for that. The lights build the mesh.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    hi @Tokead, @SMHarman & @Crustyloafer

    Thanks for the quick replies.

    Yes but the problem that I have is the number of audio zones in the ground floor and top floor. 14 audio zones for ground floor and 13 on the top floor. The speaker wires would have a 100m run length from the bottom floor PAMP to top floor In-ceiling speaker points. We might have to go for 10 AWG or 12AWG gauges. But this an apartment which is already built. The customer is going to occupy the 34th (bottom) and 35th (top) floor. The building constructors aren't allowing for large core cuts on concrete beams. We don't have gypsum partitions anywhere to simply pass the cables. We have limited space to pull cables from bottom floor to top floor. 

    For lights, we are going for recessed ceiling lights. We need to run 100+ network cables for lights and more network cables for data points. So thought of just descentralizing the top floor and bottom floor. 

    We also need a minimum of four audio streams in each floor or even more than that if possible. (Different audio tracks in different rooms) That's the reason to go for 2 X EA-5. 

    EA-5 controller, AMS & PAMP for each floor

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    For a house already being built, due to certain limitations, I need to avoid pulling speaker cables from the bottom floor to top floor. So is it recommended to have a EA-5 controller, AMS and PAMP in each floor getting connected to the same IP network? What would be the disadvantages of having a setup like this (decentralizing)? The EA-5 controller in the bottom floor would act as the main controller.

    LED Strips longer than 5m

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    15 hours ago, c4toys said:

    I have a project with lumilum and dmx driver.. I extended the runs in between ceiling trays with electrical OS cable 18/4.. total 155-160ft..

    Hi @c4toys

    Were you able to dim the RGB LED strip from Lumilum? I mean we should be able to dim the red, green and blue channels between 0-100% obviously. But I mean adjusting the brightness of the value represented by each channel. Were you able to change the brightness of the RGB LED strip? 

    My Requirement is demonstrated in the following youtube link.

     

     

    Is there any 230V fan regulator compatible with Control4?

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    4 hours ago, Amr said:

    Yes, go with bond much cheaper and way better with Chomain Driver, I replaced my MultiX with bond and couldn’t be happier.

    Hi @Amr,

    How would the menu look like with the chowmain driver? Will it be similar to a menu like tv remote or a fan icon? Will I be able to control the fan speed by sliding a bar. I appreciate if you could share an image of the navigator for me to get an idea.

    Thank you.

    Integrating Casablanca DC LED Ceiling fans with Control4

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    On 1/9/2020 at 5:17 PM, sonic30101 said:

    Havent worked with that fan but if it has a RF remote there is a good likelihood a bond bridge will be the answer

    Hi @sonic30101

    With the bond bridge, what kind of proxy we would get for the fan and the light bulb built in the fan? Would it be a TV remote like interface on the navigator or a fan icon? Any possibility to have a slider on the navigator to vary the speed by sliding the bar? 

    I appreciate if you could share an image to get an idea...

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