EDDY7 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 On my Synology NAS I have plugged a USB External drive into the NAS and have the laptops backup to the external drive so the files are managed onto the NAS and as long as the NAS and the PC are on the backup occurs (I don't have to remember to plug the external drive into the computers), but the external drive is where the data is stored away from the main content of the NAS. This drive is also the backup of the photo media on the NAS. A second external drive connected to the NAS is a backup of the movies, music and other content of the NAS. All these backups are then scheduled on the PC or the NAS so I don't have to think about this. Microsoft will pop up and tell you if the computer has not been on when a backup was scheduled for a certin number of days. Not sure how apple does it. Hope that makes sense. It may be possible on your drive.This is not a bad setup either. I'm considering it.thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I think there is a raid on the NAS "Synology" but i have not figured it out yet.Synology Hybrid Array is on by default. Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDDY7 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Synology Hybrid Array is on by default.Sent from my LT26i using TapatalkSo there is no need to set up the raid backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 So there is no need to set up the raid backup?I think you might be confused about what raid is. If you have a Synology, the raid is configured by default. Sent from my Droid MAXX via Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Rizal Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I would highly recommend a raid 5 config for any Nas. Without raid 5 you have no redundancy and protection for a list disk in your Nas.I don't see why would would want a pc backup in a separate place?Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk Having RAID even 5 is not the same as Backup. For very important data Off-SIte Backup or Copy is further recommended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Having RAID even 5 is not the same as Backup.For very important data Off-SIte Backup or Copy is further recommendedI agree raid and off site are different. But it all depends on what you are trying to accomplish Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 So there is no need to set up the raid backup?RAID is not a backup. Raid has to do with how the store array is setup Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Rizal Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Having RAID even 5 is not the same as Backup. For very important data Off-SIte Backup or Copy is further recommended Understood, I'm just commenting on why someone would want a separate PC backup in a separate place My priceless home videos is on a NAS with RAID, I also have it backedup on a separate drive (in case of NAS failure) plus I have an external hardrive copy stored in a different location (in case of fire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Understood, I'm just commenting on why someone would want a separate PC backup in a separate place My priceless home videos is on a NAS with RAID, I also have it backedup on a separate drive (in case of NAS failure) plus I have an external hardrive copy stored in a different location (in case of fire)IMHO the only reason to save it on a separate drive outside of a Nas is if you are going to off-site it. Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 IMHO the only reason to save it on a separate drive outside of a Nas is if you are going to off-site it. Sent from my XT1060 using TapatalkAnd cost. The data on the NAS is primary source data for many. As is the data on the laptop HDD. The backup does not need the same level of redundancy. I also like that the backup is then constrained to the size of the USB drive and will manage down the size of older iterations rather than filling up the NAS. I know there are settings in Win7pro to manage this but it never worked correctly for me. Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDDY7 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Well, all that I'm trying to accomplish is to prevent what just happened to me. I lost everything I hand on the PC HHD. So what i want do mow is to have something outside the PC HHD and NAS drive in case something of this sort happened in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 RAID or not, the *only* decent backup is backup off site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 RAID or not, the *only* decent backup is backup off site...which is where my two USB drives are supposed to go. Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericscales Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 @EDDY7 - to confirm you have RAID all setup, here is a pic from my system to guide you. This is from the new DSM 5.0 that was recently released from synology, so if you are on an earlier version it won't look the same. Anyhow, though, click on "Storage Manager" from the DSM Main Menu. Then click on "Volume". It should show a field called "Raid Type" and say something similar to what's in the following pic. If this is not what you're seeing, post back a screenshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDDY7 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 @EDDY7 - to confirm you have RAID all setup, here is a pic from my system to guide you. This is from the new DSM 5.0 that was recently released from synology, so if you are on an earlier version it won't look the same. Anyhow, though, click on "Storage Manager" from the DSM Main Menu. Then click on "Volume". It should show a field called "Raid Type" and say something similar to what's in the following pic. If this is not what you're seeing, post back a screenshot. ericscales: Thanks a lot. I I just saw this post and checked as you directed. Yes it is setup the way you have your screenshot. I updated the DSM while I was installing the DS.Thanks a lot. I also have the tech guy helped me set the backup to Ext WD 1TB drive connected to the DS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 ^ So now you are backing up the content of the NAS. You also need to get your pc on Windows 7 Pro. You can do that with the instant online upgrade in the OS. Set up a folder on the NAS or NAS USB1 drive called laptop backup. Point Windows backup to that folder and tell it to run daily. Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccray Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 ^So now you are backing up the content of the NAS.You also need to get your pc on Windows 7 Pro. You can do that with the instant online upgrade in the OS.Set up a folder on the NAS or NAS USB1 drive called laptop backup.Point Windows backup to that folder and tell it to run daily.Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk Is this where the apple fanboys jump in and say how bad Microsoft is for not including that capability as standard like Apple? I'm a recent convert and I want to know when we pile on. I have my windows 7 home installation via parallels mapped to the apple system, then the file backed up via time machine. It works great backing up directly to a drive on the network and it works automatically. I'm sure there will be a need at some point to go back to windows and I wouldn't setup backups any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 It's irritating but hey, the cost is minimal. Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDDY7 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Thanks guys. I have set it up to backup to the 1Tb attached to the NAS dive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHC4 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Back to the Original Thread of this post - has anyone out there managed to get approval for the API as a private user who did not have movies or MyMovies delivered by a professional ? I'm struggling to get anywhere beyond the "we dont give this to end users" policy. I have been on MyMovies for years - before becoming a Control4 customer Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHC4 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 In my correspondence with MM I have quoted Binnerup who said ".....API for end-users who have specifically been granted access. The process to be granted access is to contact support@mymovies.dk, with a confirmation that you are a private user, and that your My Movies solution was not delivered by a professional" But i dont think i am getting anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 This was intended for those who HAD control4 integration of MyMovies via the then EV driver ALREADY - not for those that had MyMovies (pro or non-pro installation) and now want to integrate it.A pro installer can get the appropriate key for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHC4 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Understood, and thanks for the reply. But i believe that the installer also needs to be a registered installer for mymovies - while i still get him to do lots of other C4 stuff for me, i'm happy to manage the movie collection myself - so i am not going to ask him to join an installers program for a 3rd party he doesnt use, just to get around this. My various emails back and forth to MM today have brought this unhappy chapter to a close - they have agreed to refund my subscription for my 2500 points. While its a great looking solution, im uncomfortable with the whole structure that is going on here. Anyhow......will look for another solution thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 No, your MyMovies needs to be setup to specs by a MyMovies licensed installer. Whether that is your C4 dealer, or a third party doesn't matter as such. That licensed installer can then get you the API key that is needed to make the C4 driver work. In other words, you can get MyMovies installed/setup by a licensed MyMovie installer, get the API key and pass it on to your dealer to enter into the driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHC4 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 i have gone back to an older PC with MyMovies ver4 and directed the Collection driver to that - and its working ok to populate the Media Library. So now onwards to get the Media Player to play them ! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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