South Africa C4 user Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I understand that OS3.3.2 is out. Not sure if my dealer will be able to update me tonight or only tomorrow. Does anyone know what is new in OS3.3.2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 support for halo is the primary feature South Africa C4 user 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Do we get 4k CCTV Cameras with upgrade ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 There are some nice camera changes, including the ability to reorder the cameras in the app / on a Touchscreen, a nicer interface for PTZ control and live thumbnails… msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, South Africa C4 user said: There are some nice camera changes, including the ability to reorder the cameras in the app / on a Touchscreen, a nicer interface for PTZ control and live thumbnails… Do they have 4k or 1080p cameras streaming on the Gui - That's what we are looking for - so we can program the Camera jumps on Senor activation App works great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Gary Leeds UK said: Do they have 4k or 1080p cameras streaming on the Gui - That's what we are looking for - so we can program the Camera jumps on Senor activation App works great I’m not sure. Supported cameras (Luma only at present - I think - sounds like other cameras will be added over time) will automatically choose the best available stream that is supported by the hardware in your setup. My understanding is that this is on a lowest common denominator basis. What is not clear to me is what the best quality that can be. For instance, Core controllers can do a 4K OSD - can they technically handle a 4K camera stream? I’ve no idea! Edited January 20, 2023 by South Africa C4 user Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 New in the proxy (indeed not available yet, the x20 Luma series is more or less a launch test it would seem) is the ability for the driver to talk to the IP cam and see what streams are available and select the best option. What this means for cams above 1080p (1080p already being supported on certain GUIs) that the drivers can auto select 2nd/3rd etc streams, leaving the main stream on a higher resolution. This replaces the need to force select a certain stream - a function which is already available now, and has been for some time. You can't actually show a 4K signal on a 1080p device, so no you won't get 4K cameras stream on a T3 (though you can try and explain how in the world you'd know the difference on a 10" screen to begin with). As with the 2nd/3rd stream support that had been available all along, you can still record your cameras at their full rez this way. The difference lying in the new ability to auto select the BEST option automatically, dynamically, based on what interface you're using. So while your T3 would be stuck at a 1080p rez, a future touchscreen or controller or possibly phone app that is 4K, or 8K or whatever capable will automatically grab the next higher rez it supports. I'll not claim to know the intricacies involved, but one would assume there will be some limit on devices (or protocols used by devices) that would work with this new feature (assuming/once C4 releases the capability for use beyond the new Luma setup). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopedogg88 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) I updated my home system to 3.2.2 last night and just checked and I'm not seeing a live thumbnail...any idea why that might be? Chime doorbell cam. Edited January 20, 2023 by chopedogg88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbones Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I can't speak to the live thumbnail, but I can speak to the speed at which cameras load now. When local it's almost instantaneous, no loading spinner at all. This is a huge improvement over the 1-2s load time from before. It feels incredibly responsive. Also, does the new camera proxy support higher resolutions? I just set all my unifi cameras to High resolution and haven't run into any resolution issues in my clients. Maybe the Unifi camera driver devs knew of the changes and already implemented the stream selection updates. I dont know. But my cameras have never performed better! Pinch zooming on a high resolution feed is awesome. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 18 hours ago, Cyknight said: New in the proxy (indeed not available yet, the x20 Luma series is more or less a launch test it would seem) is the ability for the driver to talk to the IP cam and see what streams are available and select the best option. What this means for cams above 1080p (1080p already being supported on certain GUIs) that the drivers can auto select 2nd/3rd etc streams, leaving the main stream on a higher resolution. This replaces the need to force select a certain stream - a function which is already available now, and has been for some time. You can't actually show a 4K signal on a 1080p device, so no you won't get 4K cameras stream on a T3 (though you can try and explain how in the world you'd know the difference on a 10" screen to begin with). As with the 2nd/3rd stream support that had been available all along, you can still record your cameras at their full rez this way. The difference lying in the new ability to auto select the BEST option automatically, dynamically, based on what interface you're using. So while your T3 would be stuck at a 1080p rez, a future touchscreen or controller or possibly phone app that is 4K, or 8K or whatever capable will automatically grab the next higher rez it supports. I'll not claim to know the intricacies involved, but one would assume there will be some limit on devices (or protocols used by devices) that would work with this new feature (assuming/once C4 releases the capability for use beyond the new Luma setup). So is the Gui on Core Controllers and T4 Showing 4k or 1080p ? Our cameras are all Hikvision and we are using Alan Driver Would we need to change the driver to Hikvison C4 driver for this to work ? At the moment out system works great apart from the Jumps to screen on Sensor activations which just looks crap If we are going to spend about £7k updating controllers and Touch Screen just like to make sure we are getting a good picture on the Camera Jumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 13 hours ago, chopedogg88 said: I updated my home system to 3.2.2 last night and just checked and I'm not seeing a live thumbnail...any idea why that might be? Chime doorbell cam. Strange! I, getting live thumbnails on all my regular cameras (but I don’t have Chimes) and have not checked my DS2s… will try and check now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbones Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 hours ago, jimbones said: I can't speak to the live thumbnail, but I can speak to the speed at which cameras load now. When local it's almost instantaneous, no loading spinner at all. This is a huge improvement over the 1-2s load time from before. It feels incredibly responsive. Also, does the new camera proxy support higher resolutions? I just set all my unifi cameras to High resolution and haven't run into any resolution issues in my clients. Maybe the Unifi camera driver devs knew of the changes and already implemented the stream selection updates. I dont know. But my cameras have never performed better! Pinch zooming on a high resolution feed is awesome. I spoke too soon. After 4hrs cameras have crapped out, dropped resolution back to medium/low. Bummer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 13 hours ago, chopedogg88 said: I updated my home system to 3.2.2 last night and just checked and I'm not seeing a live thumbnail...any idea why that might be? Chime doorbell cam. need to be in the list view. If you are in grid view its still snap shot only. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, South Africa C4 user said: Strange! I, getting live thumbnails on all my regular cameras (but I don’t have Chimes) and have not checked my DS2s… will try and check now. Ds2 is for sure supported as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 The new list view is really nice. I like the way the images are large and take up most of the screen Matt Lowe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, Matt Lowe said: need to be in the list view. If you are in grid view its still snap shot only. So my T4 is giving me live cameras in grid view which I really like. My iPad is only giving me live cameras in list view (which I am not mad on)… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorterTX Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 7 hours ago, jimbones said: I can't speak to the live thumbnail, but I can speak to the speed at which cameras load now. When local it's almost instantaneous, no loading spinner at all. This is a huge improvement over the 1-2s load time from before. It feels incredibly responsive. Totally agree with the improved speed. Connection to my Chime camera when I get a notification over cellular or wifi is night and day faster. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 11:56 AM, South Africa C4 user said: So my T4 is giving me live cameras in grid view which I really like. My iPad is only giving me live cameras in list view (which I am not mad on)… Grid view is based on the Snapshot speed of the cameras and the navigator. They are doing a lot to allow the device viewing cameras to select speed and resolution. South Africa C4 user and msgreenf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopedogg88 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I'm loving it! Assume this will solve the issue with Unifi Protect cameras/no snapshot support for grid view? msgreenf and jimbones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbones Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Cinegration is working on an update for the the Unifi nvr protect/gateway drivers. Stay tuned for more info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegration Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 hours ago, jimbones said: Cinegration is working on an update for the the Unifi nvr protect/gateway drivers. Stay tuned for more info! The driver update is now complete: https://drivercentral.io/platforms/control4-drivers/security-systems/unifi-protect/ Note: Turn OFF Medium RTSP stream and Turn ON Low and High streams in UniFi. There's something wrong with this specific stream resolution where the framerate is coming in wonky... Thus C4 can't view the medium livestream. 20230118 Update to use new camera_v2 proxy commands (Control4 OS3.3.2+) Added dynamic snapshots Added liveview (iPhone) Added support for different resolutions Added line cross detection events Added Package detection events Added motion detection to Protect Light driver Fixed issue with Protect light not toggling UniFi Protect Control4 drivers (20230118).zip jimbones, Dueport and msgreenf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbones Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 52 minutes ago, Cinegration said: The driver update is now complete: https://drivercentral.io/platforms/control4-drivers/security-systems/unifi-protect/ Note: Turn OFF Medium RTSP stream and Turn ON Low and High streams in UniFi. There's something wrong with this specific stream resolution where the framerate is coming in wonky... Thus C4 can't view the medium livestream. 20230118 Update to use new camera_v2 proxy commands (Control4 OS3.3.2+) Added dynamic snapshots Added liveview (iPhone) Added support for different resolutions Added line cross detection events Added Package detection events Added motion detection to Protect Light driver Fixed issue with Protect light not toggling UniFi Protect Control4 drivers (20230118).zip 1.91 MB · 0 downloads Gave this an install earlier today and she's working beautifully! Great job @cinegration! Package detection, auto stream quality selection, and snapshot support is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dueport Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Cinegration said: The driver update is now complete: https://drivercentral.io/platforms/control4-drivers/security-systems/unifi-protect/ Note: Turn OFF Medium RTSP stream and Turn ON Low and High streams in UniFi. There's something wrong with this specific stream resolution where the framerate is coming in wonky... Thus C4 can't view the medium livestream. 20230118 Update to use new camera_v2 proxy commands (Control4 OS3.3.2+) Added dynamic snapshots Added liveview (iPhone) Added support for different resolutions Added line cross detection events Added Package detection events Added motion detection to Protect Light driver Fixed issue with Protect light not toggling UniFi Protect Control4 drivers (20230118).zip 1.91 MB · 0 downloads Wow - that's a great update - thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J to the D Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Might be a dumb question, is there a way to change the C4 touchscreens to a list view for the cameras instead of a grid view? List view shows live thumbnails on the phone and iPad but not sure how to get a list view on the TP’s. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Should be a button on the top of the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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