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I just tried it - it works!  Powered off my phone and turned lights on and off.

I just tried it - it works!  Powered off my phone and turned lights on and off.

That is an accurate assesment.  Now that I’ve had my T4s for a couple of months, my overall view can be summarised as follows:
1. A big improvement on the T3s;
2. If I was buying new Touchscreens, I would rather by a new T4 at full price than pay half price for a T3;
3. I upgraded 2 of my 4 T3s to T4s at my main residence and won’t be doing the other 2.  If I could go back in time, I would only update one of the T3s.
4. I upgraded 2 of my 5 T3s at my holiday home and, again, won’t be doing any more. I would also have only upgraded the one I use the most (main bedroom) with the benefit of hindsight.
5. The fact that the T4 (10 inch is a different shape from the T3 is annoying as in wall mounting needs to be completely reworked).
6. The single biggest plus for me is that Refresh Navigators just works on the T4s.  My projects got to a certain size recently where I have often had to do a hard reboot after refreshing navigators before the T3s work…

Update to 321.40, Intercom in OS 3 for iOS was just released today.

And refreshing navigators is nice and quick on the T4.  It was great on the T3s back in OS3.0.1 I think) when I upgraded to a CA10 but has slowed considerably over the last couple of years. My T4 refreshed in about 10% of the time my T3s are refreshing.  I have also found that in most releases since around OS3.1 the refreshing of navigators sometimes results in one of my T3s hanging.  Early days but the T4 has not hung on me yet.

I have finally received 2 T4s (after many promises that they were 2 weeks away!).  I’m both impressed and underwhelmed.  In summary, definitely a step up on the T3 but not as a big an improvement as I had hoped for.
I have a massive project and two or three of my rooms (heavy on large Experience buttons) are slow to load. On the T3 these could take up to 12 seconds.  On the T4, they take up to 3 seconds (I was hoping for 1 second).
Swiping between rooms is great but there is a noticeable delay (1 second in most cases) before the new room loads (again, bearing in mind that my project is large!).  While this is still noticeable compared to my iPad which is instant, it is not a long enough delay to be annoying (on the T3 it was).  Nor is it long enough to bring up the spinning circle as one waits except on the 2 or 3 really large (graphic heavy) rooms mentioned above.
The camera view seems crisper and so do screensaver photographs.  I am assuming this is real and not just different brightness settings 🙂
These must be a pleasure for the dealer (compared to the T3) as taking them on and off the wall is much much easier.  They are a slick piece of equipment now. 
The speakers at the back look impressive so I am expecting better sound quality.  I played an announcement and it sounded good.  I have not tried an intercom call yet.

Annoyingly, I have 2 sets of experience buttons (both ones that I use a lot) which don’t work on the T4.  They just appear as blank squares.  One of these is some of the buttons in the Chowmain Experience Button Suite.  Someone posted this problem in another thread a few weeks ago, so I was not surprised.  I have logged a ticket against this issue.  The other being the EGauge driver from bNet Solutions.  I have emailed the developer and I am hoping this will be an easy fix…
I have a couple of web based apps that run on my system.  On the T3s, these were too slow to be of any practical use.  They are considerably faster on the T4 (2 seconds to load as opposed to 20) and they are quite usable although I suspect that I will still use my iPad much more than the Touchscreen for this sort of thing.
 
 

Curious to see if anyone has found (or would be willing to post) some demo's of the t3 vs t4?  And maybe a live demo of the chime being answered on a t3/t4 (curious to see PQ, audio quality and any lag, etc.). 
 
I've seen the marketing videos, but interested in real world performance. 

Actually still using this one in a guest bedroom - have expanded my C4 system quite a bit since this post.  No problems so far (other than it being dropped and shattering the screen - see here).
 

Just thought of another one:
Some way to display more information about the house on screensavers.  so when I’m walking by one, I can quickly glance and get an overview of what’s going on in the house. EG - if an exterior door or window is open, lights on around the house on, AV zones on, etc.  
Maybe more broadly - the ability for developers to build screensavers for the OSD / T3 / T4 interfaces. 

I thought I should add a few items:
1. The ability to change the number of icons on a T3 /T4 screen.  E.g. it would be nice to do 6 x 4 like on an iPad instead of the standard 5 x 3.  The different configurations makes creating an aesthetically pleasing screen more difficult.
2. Control of pump speeds via the pool proxy (e.g. for the Pentair driver).
3. Control of pool light colours and colour shows via the pool proxy (e.g. for the Pentair driver).
4. Control of Vacation mode on the Pentair IntelliCenter driver.
5. The ability to see longer names of experience buttons (maybe via scrolling text or smaller font size options) on an Experience button
6. An experience button that has a window in it for text / numeric input that can be updated via programming. 
7. allowing status messages on iOS in the same way as they are available on the T3.

My list, a few new and a few "me too"s.  I realize some of these are third party limitation rather than C4s.
Web based Navigator. Convert Composer HE to run as a web based app so that it is OS - independent. Run Composer HE on Linux or Mac. Another vote for full REST API and native MQTT integration. Give end users the ability to install Mini-apps they way that they can install music services with Add Music. Native Spotify Control. Increase in the max number of Spotify instances in a project. Ability to use a Raspberry Pi as a C4 audio endpoint or IOX.

Zigbee 3 module for all the goodies out there

More flexible GUI with HTML5 pages (floor pan etc)

Web based control for PC via Browser

Web based media management, like Emby or plex

Compatibility for European system 55 faceplates with matching KeyCaps - Noone buys the current line because it just doesn't blend in and it does not have options for 3 or 4 way gangs - it's just a little plastic piece come on!!

Kind of short but hoping to see more of these types of video “walk throughs” of Chime and T4. 

I like the picture and video from the chime, great quality, it's got a  lot of great features. . I do not like the interface on android. When my doorbell rings my android starts ringing like a phone call and I have to 1st unlock my phone which I guess is normal. The interface on the T3 and the T4 is really good, pop right up in your able to answer or reject the calls. I do not like the interface on android. When my doorbell rings my android starts ringing like a phone call and I have to 1st unlock my phone which I guess is normal but then trying to get right to the doorbell chime seems like it takes too many steps. It might just be how I have it  set up on my phone but if they fixed that feature I think it's one of the best video doorbells out on the market today

Very happy with the 4 or 5 Chimes we’ve installed so far. Also, I can confirm they work on just two pairs of a Cat cable just in case *someone* happens to damage the wire while digging it out of masonry....

Here is a on screen side x side chime and ds2 at our showroom. Chime has a much better camera , better night vision and much wider field of view 

Merry Christmas!
 

^^Merry Christmas everyone

Merry 🎄 Christmas!!!!

Merry Christmas! 

Thank you @Cyknight and Merry Christmas to all.

Merry Christmas all, and God bless.

Merry Christmas!
 

The third item (T3 screensaver) can be partially achieved via programming. I have mine setup as you have for when media is playing and then I do a photo screen saver if music is not playing and on some screens, I blank them out at night and on one other (near my pool), I have it display the time only (a massive clock) from 6am to 9am so that I can see the time during my morning swim...

Blessings to All.