cdepaola Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Fail without out Apple branded products and being open source protocol for Android.1. Nest is not going to be first on board, and they are certainly the most visible in the market to the average consumer.2. Large vendors (Lutron's of the world) aren't going to want to support two platforms.3. MANY households are mixed OS'sWould a common protocol help the industry, absolutely.The "average" consumer still has no clue what or who Nest is.... They know what is sold and has the biggest display at the big box and they know AppleSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The average consumer may not know what a Nest is but they may think it is cool to be able to control their t-stat from their iPhone or to have their lights turn on automatically when they arrive home. If they can buy products that can do that for $200 at Best Buy rather than a lot more from a C4 dealer then you will see more adoption of HA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajgaspard Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 Very diverse opinions here, leaning more towards "threat" rather "opportunity" .....interesting comments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex-w Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Apple is probably going to make consumer level home automation. Which will be bad for c4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajgaspard Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 Time will tell as usual but I am willing to bet that there will be more opportunities for everyone in the field in the short and mid term...But it is easy to be wrong forecasting technology.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 A threat to C4. I currently own the following web-connected devices that are not integrated into C4: IrrigationCaddy, The price of drivers is often very high compared to the benefit, especially when the existing, albeit standalone, apps for these devices are pretty good. If I knew about the OpenSprinkler Pi before I bought my IrrigationCaddy then I would have bought it instead. The price of 0 dollars is too high? The irrigation caddy driver is free.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Maybe the IC driver is free but some of the others, like the Hunter Douglas Platinum driver, are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEORY Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Complain to HunterDouglas that the driver isn't free, we have offered many times to sell it to them. Some within the company would like to buy it, but they are well aware of the need. Just to large of a company for someone to make a decision. I ask if when you got your shades were they free? Most likely not, nor are they cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyevans Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 From my understanding it will be unified under a singular app plus integration to siri. I see this as apple's attempt to take on technology such as UPnP (think Belkin's WeMo app and devices). For most people this will be a great introduction to home automation. Having said that though it'll be more like a universal remote for your home rather than a more automated experience. Either way i think this is a great step forward for mass market home automation especially in terms of a unified protocol for devices. Home Kit actually falls inline with what apple does best. Keeping it simple. By elimating complexities of a always on hub and by making an app that talks to devices 1 to 1 they can ensure that it will always work with little to no tech experience required. Basically this is a apple's expansion of what Belkin does with its WeMo app. Hopefully this protocol will be available for integration with other non Apple systems such as Control4, Crestron, AMX, Savant, etc. This will make integration to products extremely easily. It will also mean alot more products that are more affordable. Will it eliminate Control4 and other existing automation systems? Heck no. Will it make people understand what home automation is so that i don't need to explain what i do for a living? YES! Alan, You have done some amazing things with Control4 Integration, is there anything new in iOS 9 / Siri API's that would allow a 3rd Party to provide "real" Siri integration with Control4? I don't want all of HomeKit, just real Siri integration (without a VoicePod or hacked web server) because I always have my phone with me. Or does someone already have a driver for Siri integration? Thanks, Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Alan, You have done some amazing things with Control4 Integration, is there anything new in iOS 9 / Siri API's that would allow a 3rd Party to provide "real" Siri integration with Control4? I don't want all of HomeKit, just real Siri integration (without a VoicePod or hacked web server) because I always have my phone with me. Or does someone already have a driver for Siri integration? Thanks, Charles With the way siri works no. There used to be a hack way of doing it using the proxy method but this got shut down by Apple. Basically what happens is that every time you talk to siri it goes off to Apple's servers where they process your command and send the result back to you. The proxy method intercepts the siri command and returns custom notifications. Unfortunately this method doesn't work anymore though it was cool when it did work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niall Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Alan, You have done some amazing things with Control4 Integration, is there anything new in iOS 9 / Siri API's that would allow a 3rd Party to provide "real" Siri integration with Control4? I don't want all of HomeKit, just real Siri integration (without a VoicePod or hacked web server) because I always have my phone with me. Or does someone already have a driver for Siri integration? Thanks, CharlesHey Charles, I setup real siri integration today and documented how to do it here:https://c4drivers.wordpress.com/2015/10/28/homekit-for-control4/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajgaspard Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 5 years later and it is pretty impressive how the landscape has evolved! We are still alive! More people aware of HA and the business is thriving! Competition is always good! msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 5 more years and some disruptive tech will take over, I will stay with C4 thought .. . msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Yeah, complete destruction of this industry by 'the big boys' is always 5 years out... Has been since I started in this industry, back in 1999... msgreenf and drro 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I'll stick to control4. 9 years of using it in my house and only keeps getting betterSent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Must say the Roll out OS3 and Control4 Staff reaching out about Beta Testing as been great. Hell of a lot less issues for such a big release compared to 2.10 Can tell Charlie is in Charge Starting to Like the New Management feels more Corporate than Start UP Keep up the Good Work drro and RyanE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Absolutely and BTW the camera’s thumbs had been fixed now with Beta 3 absolutely fabulous to have it back on 2.10.6! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Gary Leeds UK said: Can tell Charlie is in Charge I totally agree that Charlie is great and I don't think there's a better fit for CTO at Control4, and he's done wonders in the time he's been here (getting OS 3.0 out the door with a level of quality that was required), but I'll also say that Martin Plaehn as CEO took the company up a lot of notches during the time he was leading the company, and without Martin, we wouldn't have Charlie. I'm looking forward to seeing how John Heyman leads the combined company. From what I've seen, the whole SnapAV team is very forward-thinking, and I have high hopes for the future. RyanE P.S. Nothing I'm saying in this post should be construed to be an official communication of SnapAV+Control4, but I'm guessing they wouldn't mind me saying it... Neo1738, rea and drro 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drro Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 @ryane Glad to hear that you’re excited and confident about the leadership. Wishing you much success and happiness in the next chapter. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RyanE and Neo1738 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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