Cyknight Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 hours ago, South Africa C4 user said: And apparently the Domosapiens DSC Driver was erroneously added to a block list and C4 is resolving now... so hopefully myself and anyone else with this driver can upgrade soon... If I had to guess, the driver was built using the original DSC driver, and that's why it got flagged. As I understand it, Composer checks the source codes for drivers, not any name etc. In other words, drivers aren't blacklisted as such, specific codes and tags are. South Africa C4 user and msgreenf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
control4user007 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Has anyone tried using the 3.0 app over vpn w/o 4Sight? Can’t get it to work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Quote I've heard that 3.0 includes icons/OSD that support 4k You hear a lot of things on these boards that are quite inaccurate. thegreatheed and msgreenf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
control4user007 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, control4user007 said: Has anyone tried using the 3.0 app over vpn w/o 4Sight? Can’t get it to work... Also how can I get light levels and thermostat control back to the TV OSD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Also how can I get light levels and thermostat control back to the TV OSD?You don't. They are removed from osd for now. Osd is the focused temporary and some controls may come back in a future releaseSent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaltrader Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Seems little counter intuitive to not control lights and thermostats on the OSD without extra work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, control4user007 said: Also how can I get light levels and thermostat control back to the TV OSD? I believe those have been removed and you have to use favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaltrader Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I’m frustrated that the door stations (I have 2) can’t be used in OS 3.0. They have never been supported well by C4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, digitaltrader said: Seems little counter intuitive to not control lights and thermostats on the OSD without extra work. I don't disagree, and hope full control will return at some point, but the focus has been on media and cameras from what I've seen, and creating an OSD that isn't 'just a port' from the T3 screens with somewhat awkward controls instead of touch control. It seems clear to me that a LOT of work went into the OSD so far, more may yet be coming. thegreatheed, msgreenf and South Africa C4 user 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, digitaltrader said: I’m frustrated that the door stations (I have 2) can’t be used in OS 3.0. They have never been supported well by C4. These suffered heavily from a missed limitation in the chips they used, something that from what I know just couldn't be overcome. With DS2 getting the app, I'm thinking it was time to let these go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, digitaltrader said: Seems little counter intuitive to not control lights and thermostats on the OSD without extra work. Yeah - it's pretty stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatheed Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, LollerAgent said: Yeah - it's pretty stupid. Yeah it's ridiculous to make the TV GUI focused on Watch and Listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Scale Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 In an update mainly focused on UI changes, I can't understand why they stop support of items like door stations and speaker points. Even a controller that is more a slave than a primary unit, why would you not just support it albeit on older firmware? All driven at selling more hardware. In an industry of pretty poor suppliers and some new upcoming players why would you alienate everyone? chesterwilson and Amr 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Yeah it's ridiculous to make the TV GUI focused on Watch and Listen. Is it though? It's fully optimized for d pad navigiation for TVSent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterwilson Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, The_Scale said: In an update mainly focused on UI changes, I can't understand why they stop support of items like door stations and speaker points. Even a controller that is more a slave than a primary unit, why would you not just support it albeit on older firmware? All driven at selling more hardware. In an industry of pretty poor suppliers and some new upcoming players why would you alienate everyone? They make money on the sale of hardware, not really the sale of software. It's crazy when people throw out comparisons of upgrading your iPhone every 2 years. I use my iPhone more then my Control4 system in its entirety, let alone a touchscreen, controller, etc. Chalk it up as a lesson learned and minimize your investment in Control4 products. Whenever possible buy third party products. No more touchscreens, speaker points and controllers behind TV's for me. therockhr and Amr 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Here is a non ui updatehttps://www.soundandvision.com/content/control4-s-mqa-support-first-home-automationSent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevets23 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Is there something special that needs to be done to update to 3.0? Update Manager is not showing any update available and I'm on 2.10.6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatheed Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 41 minutes ago, msgreenf said: Is it though? It's fully optimized for d pad navigiation for TV Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk I was being sarcastic. drro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevets23 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 30 minutes ago, nevets23 said: Is there something special that needs to be done to update to 3.0? Update Manager is not showing any update available and I'm on 2.10.6? Nevermind, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, thegreatheed said: Yeah it's ridiculous to make the TV GUI focused on Watch and Listen. I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but yeah, It's sort of ridiculous that they REMOVED something that clearly MANY people used from the OSD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, thegreatheed said: Yeah it's ridiculous to make the TV GUI focused on Watch and Listen. I actually kind of agree with you. No reason for a TV user interface to be used for adjusting lighting and thermostats. With that said, when you take functionality away, people will get upset. I would actually take it a step further and get rid of the OSD all together. Lot of wasted software and hardware development time for something that probably rarely gets used outside showrooms and marketing videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janthony6 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I control my somfy shades using an urtsi- don’t remember the driver - will this work on 3.0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but yeah, It's sort of ridiculous that they REMOVED something that clearly MANY people used from the OSD.What is your scientific assement of many people? Sample size and analysis method. I am pretty sure control4 has stats Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, msgreenf said: What is your scientific assement of many people? Sample size and analysis method. I am pretty sure control4 has stats Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk It's not scientific. My statement was more or less based on feedback that I have read in various forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 48 minutes ago, janthony6 said: I control my somfy shades using an urtsi- don’t remember the driver - will this work on 3.0? Depends on the driver, not the device. If it's the C4 original driver, I'm not sure. If it's a 3rd party driver you're fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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