fdastoor Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Are there any water leak detectors that work with Control4? Do they make any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 hours ago, fdastoor said: Are there any water leak detectors that work with Control4? Do they make any? Do you have an alarm system? Can tie in there then C4 will see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Moen Flo is awesome. 6 hours ago, fdastoor said: Are there any water leak detectors that work with Control4? Do they make any? msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 +1 for Flo by Moen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I use "Sedna by Sinope" is cheaper than Moen and does the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Cloud dependent ones have a fault if you lose power or internet access. Alarm panels usually have battery back up so they just flat out work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff W Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, eggzlot said: Cloud dependent ones have a fault if you lose power or internet access. Alarm panels usually have battery back up so they just flat out work This is our preferred method. But you can also use something like GRI 2600 (either 2 wire or 4 wire conductor) if you have an open Contact/power on your processor. You will need a dealer to add/bind. Regardless of what option you choose, I also highly recommend @Cinegration Water Agent, click here for driver details! Cinegration 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo1738 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Flo seems to be the most popular, I have Dam-It Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I use water sensors tied into my DSC Alarm. I then have a Water Cop that is tied into my controller via a relay. When alarm sensors detect water, water cop shuts off. I do like the cloud based ones because they can monitor even smaller drips but I’d still keep hardwired alarm sensors in most fault prone areas to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Loss of power is a big one. No lights, no AV, no using thousands of $ of automation, no sump pump , 12V alarm battery dies... it's a question of priorities. Went the generator route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo1738 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, prabeau said: Loss of power is a big one. No lights, no AV, no using thousands of $ of automation, no sump pump , 12V alarm battery dies... it's a question of priorities. Went the generator route. Generator, 2 120v sump pumps/wells, auto water shutoff and a water powered backup sump pump. Really don't want my basement flooded lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 12 hours ago, Neo1738 said: Generator, 2 120v sump pumps/wells, auto water shutoff and a water powered backup sump pump. Really don't want my basement flooded lol. 2 pumps / 2 circuits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Neo1738 said: Generator, 2 120v sump pumps/wells, auto water shutoff and a water powered backup sump pump. Really don't want my basement flooded lol. Same boat here. Though I did water back ups before I added an automatic whole home generator. Though still peace of mind if the main pump just breaks. That said I have wireless tag sensors attached to the pipe in the pit so if it gets wet because water levels creep up I’ll know before it overflows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave w Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I have been using Flume as an alternative to Flo. No integration, but its been very reliable and very accurate for past year. https://flumewater.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dueport Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 We have Honeywell water sensors at all likely sources for overflow (washer, fridge, HVAC, etc) so those are monitored by alarm company which is a nice peace of mind - and they're integrated into C4 for programming and automatic shut off. We also have Flo shutoff valve which is integrated into C4 for shutoff if Flo doesn't decide to shut things off on its own. So hopefully between the Flo AI and the alarm company we'll never have a serious flood.....really don't want that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Wouldn't a simple sensor like this work, wired into your alarm system or a C4 controller or Z2IO?https://www.amazon.ca/Level-Sense-2600-Sensor-Detection/dp/B015P9M7KQ/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff W Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 That's basically what a GRI 2600 water sensor is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Well the GRI is powered - meaning it will report a failure as well as sensing water. Which is not NEEDED, but a nice bonus to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 8:25 AM, prabeau said: Loss of power is a big one. No lights, no AV, no using thousands of $ of automation, no sump pump , 12V alarm battery dies... it's a question of priorities. Went the generator route. Being on a well, no power means no well pump means no water pressure means leak stops. Im going to replace the well pump switch with a C4 one but I need to replace the tiny back box first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/15/2021 at 12:52 PM, Dave w said: I have been using Flume as an alternative to Flo. No integration, but its been very reliable and very accurate for past year. https://flumewater.com/ For me the Flo integration is more useful to put it to sleep when the irrigation is running for long periods of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/15/2021 at 6:52 PM, Dave w said: I have been using Flume as an alternative to Flo. No integration, but its been very reliable and very accurate for past year. https://flumewater.com/ Yes Flume is very reliable, they are using AI and logic to determine water loads and leaks, issue is they need regular non shielded meters, didn’t work with my meter as it was magnetically shielded to prevent tampering! They asked me to install a regular meter before or after this one, I didn’t have the space more over authorities declined my request Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Flume 2 is also on sale right now for $129. I was considering Flo, but I may try Flume at this price. But - it's sort of a bummer Flume can't actually shut off your water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/15/2021 at 12:52 PM, Dave w said: I have been using Flume as an alternative to Flo. No integration, but its been very reliable and very accurate for past year. https://flumewater.com/ I wonder with IFTTT if you could hack something. Flume sends you an email or a text with an alert. Maybe you could set up a trigger with ifttt on incoming messages and have it send a command to Control4? few cloud hops but it’s something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakelay Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 8:30 AM, Neo1738 said: Generator, 2 120v sump pumps/wells, auto water shutoff and a water powered backup sump pump. Really don't want my basement flooded lol. Probably a dumb question but want to make sure I understand since I’m just starting to look into this option (water powered sump pump backup and auto shutoff). Does the shutoff get installed after the backup connection? I wouldn’t want the system to detect water somewhere and close a valve before the back up pump or it won’t work. Beginning the planning process here so any info would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 27 minutes ago, Jakelay said: Probably a dumb question but want to make sure I understand since I’m just starting to look into this option (water powered sump pump backup and auto shutoff). Does the shutoff get installed after the backup connection? I wouldn’t want the system to detect water somewhere and close a valve before the back up pump or it won’t work. Beginning the planning process here so any info would be appreciated. That is how I have mine set up. First is the auto water back up, then is my auto water off then are two lines - one internal and one for sprinklers. So if water is detected the auto water shut off turns off water to the house/sprinkler but the backup sump pump water can still flow. Only risk is that line/pipe isn’t what’s leaking. Luckily my piping is exposed so I can easily put eyes on it to see if the copper line running to water back up is whats leaking or not. Jakelay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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