Caudio18 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, KWD said: So chime has motion detection but not via ai like Ring? Hard pass. The motion detection so far has been very good, up to 5 zones, each with separate size and sensitivity and video quality very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Found some new goodies new camera format and history tab has some updates and access changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, ejn1 said: Thanks , was just trying to see how much more than the T3 the T4 was going to list for... Nice touchscreen but pricing not for the faint of heart They certainly are up there in price but the quality is there. A lot of tablets i have had my hands on really do not seem nearly as nice as even the T3. I will say my touchscreens have been very welcome additions to my system and love using them when i need them. I wouldn't do it again with out them. GregCAMS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, Matt Lowe said: They certainly are up there in price but the quality is there. A lot of tablets i have had my hands on really do not seem nearly as nice as even the T3. I will say my touchscreens have been very welcome additions to my system and love using them when i need them. I wouldn't do it again with out them. I second this... my only issue has been that as I have extended my system and added too many experience buttons, the T3 has become a little slow when changing rooms... I am assuming the T4 will fix this for me and give me iPad speed when swapping rooms. If so, I will have 9 touchscreens to replace... just not all at once as that would be way too expensive at this price point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, South Africa C4 user said: I second this... my only issue has been that as I have extended my system and added too many experience buttons, the T3 has become a little slow when changing rooms... I am assuming the T4 will fix this for me and give me iPad speed when swapping rooms. If so, I will have 9 touchscreens to replace... just not all at once as that would be way too expensive at this price point are the experience buttons on the main page of each room or hidden? sound like you need more touch screens in more spaces to have them dedicated and cut down on changing rooms haha! but yes with the more powerful processor i would imagine this will help on loading times for everything. South Africa C4 user 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaas Mayer Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 heavy prices for an android 10" device with fullhd display therockhr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Köhler Medientechnik Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Kaas Mayer said: heavy prices for an android 10" device with fullhd display Yep, slowly catching up with Crestron pricing. But as always: if you look behind the scenes and just add up the component cost, you´ll get mad. Shouldn´t do that - you´re buying a solution, not a piece of hardware. Thepritch88 and South Africa C4 user 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Matt Lowe said: They certainly are up there in price but the quality is there. A lot of tablets i have had my hands on really do not seem nearly as nice as even the T3. I will say my touchscreens have been very welcome additions to my system and love using them when i need them. I wouldn't do it again with out them. Agree Matt. Once i finally added a dedicated touchscreen, my family and I used it much more. I had tried an Ipad on the wall with the C4 app and even that didnt get as much use. Challenge is with just general price elasticity of these touchscreens. At some point folks just don't want to pay that much for a screen. Hopefully you guys will be able to sell a lot of them because they look very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE L1ZARD KING Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I will be real curious to see how the two models of the Chime compare to one another from a performance standpoint once integrators have had time to install both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I have never had any C4 touchscreens. What is the incremental value of a C4 TS vs using an iPad or Android tablet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
control4user007 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Interested in the Chime, but haven’t seen a price yet. I was ready to upgrade my 6 T3s because they are becoming noticeably sluggish, but the price of the T4 (x6) turned me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 T4 with no new features and a higher price tag is dumb. Just more processing power. Over 4 years the cost of that new processor is the same as the slower one in the t3 4 years ago voice built in? Facial recognition? Maybe I’m biting. For a “faster” response time - meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Interested in the Chime, but haven’t seen a price yet. I was ready to upgrade my 6 T3s because they are becoming noticeably sluggish, but the price of the T4 (x6) turned me off. $400 for chimeSent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk control4user007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Köhler Medientechnik Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, zaphod said: What is the incremental value of a C4 TS vs using an iPad or Android tablet? It´s always at the same place - no need to search for it... GUI is available immediately, no need to swipe or open any apps or sth. No hassle with OS updates or incompatibilities Tablets are a good addition to wall panels for me, but would never be a substitute for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chudel Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I hope the integrated Intercom Anywhere functionality shows up in the iPad version... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Köhler Medientechnik Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, eggzlot said: T4 with no new features and a higher price tag is dumb. Just more processing power. This is what marketing says: "The Control4 T4 Touchscreen improves upon the T3 with over 2x the resolution, larger speakers, dual microphones, and a faster processor." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminaldisclaimer Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I would have thought for sure they would have added Alexa. Although, I'm not surprised given its C4 and they do things very incrementally. I'm guessing they will in the future though given the emphasis on "microphones." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Does Chime video support require a T4? The Chime is what I was hoping for before I got the Ring Elite - a video doorbell integrated into C4 with local response not dependent on the cloud. My PoE Ring Elite seems to take longer and longer to respond these days. I’m hoping Chime is a lot more responsive and I’m really hoping C4 was smart enough to put a mounting option together that makes replacing a Ring Elite as simple as changing out a faceplate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Chime does not require a t4Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azkid Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 11 hours ago, Matt Lowe said: Found some new goodies new camera format and history tab has some updates and access changes. silly question, once updated to the new firmware how do you get the history button to show? I can see history agent in composer but theres nothing on my c4 app... Checked the navigator screen in composer and didn't see it there either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 it should appear by default Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Köhler Medientechnik said: It´s always at the same place - no need to search for it... GUI is available immediately, no need to swipe or open any apps or sth. No hassle with OS updates or incompatibilities Tablets are a good addition to wall panels for me, but would never be a substitute for it. Point 1 is easily solvable so I would completely discount that. I agree with you on points 2 and 3, although I think issue 3 is pretty minor. Are the Android and iOS apps the same when it comes to features? Are there some features that the Touchscreen has that they tablets can't do - wasn''t there an issue with intercom? What is the MSRP of the T4 touchscreen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Köhler Medientechnik said: This is what marketing says: "The Control4 T4 Touchscreen improves upon the T3 with over 2x the resolution, larger speakers, dual microphones, and a faster processor." Marketing for sure. Who is complaining about audio quality on the T3 when they talk to someone on the intercom for 5 seconds to answer the door or tell someone dinner is ready :-). Hey I am just saying its really marketing BS. They did right with Chime vs trying to push the DS2. Wishing the T4 had some real excitement to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Köhler Medientechnik Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, zaphod said: Point 1 is easily solvable so I would completely discount that. That depends on the amount of people living with you in your household and how strict they apply to your rules. For me it´s on first place on the list for good reason. But sure, every project is different on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Surely you are aware that these exist: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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