C4 User Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Does anyone know if Brilliant Smart switches can be integrated with C4? These switches look really nice. See www.brilliant.tech for their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopedogg88 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 44 minutes ago, C4 User said: Does anyone know if Brilliant Smart switches can be integrated with C4? These switches look really nice. See www.brilliant.tech for their website. Have you looked at Orro? Chowmain has a driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4 User Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 I’ve looked at Orro but these come in 1, 2, 3 and 4 gang. And larger display. Look nice if they perform well and can integrate with C4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyPhy Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 20 hours ago, C4 User said: I’ve looked at Orro but these come in 1, 2, 3 and 4 gang. And larger display. Look nice if they perform well and can integrate with C4 But Brilliant doesn’t integrate with C4, so it’s not even an option. I don’t think they have an open API, so no driver is likely in the future. Orro is the closest to Brilliant if you want something like this. Or just use Brilliant without C4 integration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLite Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 5 hours ago, WhyPhy said: But Brilliant doesn’t integrate with C4, so it’s not even an option. I don’t think they have an open API, so no driver is likely in the future. Orro is the closest to Brilliant if you want something like this. Or just use Brilliant without C4 integration. Those Orro switches look cool. Does anybody know if the Orro switch can be paired to a room in Alexa? This has always been a dealbreaker problem for me in using non-Amazon devices for Alexa voice control -- e.g., our Ecobee thermostats. An Echo device can be assigned to a particular room in the Alexa app, but I can't do that with my Ecobees. So, for example, with the Echos, we can say "play music," and if the Office Echo hears that, it understands that music needs to be played on the office speakers -- same for adjusting lights, thermostat, etc. If they have finally sorted this out, I'd love to switch from echo devices to Orro switches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodingart Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 I’m a bit late to the party here, but the company that produced Orro switches is going through hefty financial issues and is essentially shutting down. I wouldn’t put your ducks in that bucket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Loved the Orro design factor. Even if they go away hopefully someone (cough cough Snap) buys the IP or hardware and fixes it up - kind of like how Snap got the NEEO and smacked their label on it then used that R&D to create the Halo line, etc. Issue is it is an expensive switch, and if someone is doing a custom install job they are likely getting Lutron, C4, Savant branded switches, and the DIY person is usually not looking for $150-$300/pop switches/dimmers. Just seems like a tough price point given the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshepard Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Orro suspended business operations on 10/27/22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 This is unfortunate sad news but rather imminent! These companies while having a great product designs can’t sustain lifetime business based on such product/pricing, u can’t live being niche player, thought these companies launches on a hope some one would acquire them! So did they had a cloud based system or Chowmain driver can make them work cloudless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 yet everyone complains about the pricing of C4.....rather ironic right? You gotta price products to pay for innovation and sustainable operations. VC won't carry you forever... Neo1738 and chopedogg88 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopedogg88 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Control4 Essential dimmers and switches are $101.95 MSRP... Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERDrPC Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 On 4/26/2023 at 6:48 PM, cshepard said: Orro suspended business operations on 10/27/22. https://getorro.com/announcement-orro-scaling-back-operations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, ERDrPC said: https://getorro.com/announcement-orro-scaling-back-operations That statement does not tell me to buy their product. They've committed to no software updates and no new manufacturing and say they have 6 months of life at a minimum. That's not a place. I would want to be spending $300 a switch BXTR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 31 minutes ago, chopedogg88 said: Control4 Essential dimmers and switches are $101.95 MSRP... Sadly I've been living with the model from 15 years ago and cursing any time a builb humms...... Not that i know its only $100, time to consider some updates... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 49 minutes ago, ekohn00 said: Sadly I've been living with the model from 15 years ago and cursing any time a builb humms...... Not that i know its only $100, time to consider some updates... I have another experience, had been using C4 Panelized Switches/Dimmers in addition to C4 Puck Switches/Dimmers since 2016, not a single complaints for 7 yrs, all I do is to use a good quality Dimmable bulbs, Osram/Philips/IKEA only, so far so good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 hours ago, msgreenf said: yet everyone complains about the pricing of C4.....rather ironic right? You gotta price products to pay for innovation and sustainable operations. VC won't carry you forever... How many we lost in the past 4 yrs, Insteon, Wink, Iris, etc. The likes of Sony, Dlink, WeMo that keep closing down complete lines of business, u end up with (IOS) Internet-of-Shit devices that good for nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Amr said: How many we lost in the past 4 yrs, Insteon, Wink, Iris, etc. The likes of Sony, Dlink, WeMo that keep closing down complete lines of business, u end up with (IOS) Internet-of-Shit devices that good for nothing! Wemo hasn't shuttered. They just have paused on matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, msgreenf said: Wemo hasn't shuttered. They just have paused on matter But they stopped C4 driver integration through Chowmain exactly like those idiots of Tuya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Amr said: But they stopped C4 driver integration through Chowmain exactly like those idiots of Tuya! That doesn't mean they are out of business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 11 hours ago, ekohn00 said: Sadly I've been living with the model from 15 years ago and cursing any time a builb humms...... Not that i know its only $100, time to consider some updates... Just know that the essential line is ONLY FW phase dimming. That's normally OK for LED, but there is no adaptive option so that does cause some limitations (note, still MUCH better than the older style) As with everything you get what you pay for. One thing I always point out that the essential line works fine for a lower price up front - BUT know that they consume several times the power to operate (3w for the essential line, vs less than 0.5w for the regular line). Also, their minimum required wattage is much higher. Where the regular dimmers should NEVER be a problem at 1w minimum, the essential line is at 4.5w. Not a lot, but that single bulb potlight in the closet just might be a 3w LED.... Nothing AGAINST the essential line, but know what you're getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 10 hours ago, Amr said: I have another experience, had been using C4 Panelized Switches/Dimmers in addition to C4 Puck Switches/Dimmers since 2016, not a single complaints for 7 yrs, all I do is to use a good quality Dimmable bulbs, Osram/Philips/IKEA only, so far so good! He's talking about the first generation/style dimmers (which came out before LED bulbs etc were really even a thing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Cyknight said: He's talking about the first generation/style dimmers (which came out before LED bulbs etc were really even a thing) 15 yrs for Dimmer is also too much, I mean it paid its dues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 7 hours ago, Amr said: 15 yrs for Dimmer is also too much, I mean it paid its dues! Based on the number of switches in this house, 15 years can bairly pay for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Cyknight said: Just know that the essential line is ONLY FW phase dimming. That's normally OK for LED, but there is no adaptive option so that does cause some limitations (note, still MUCH better than the older style) As with everything you get what you pay for. One thing I always point out that the essential line works fine for a lower price up front - BUT know that they consume several times the power to operate (3w for the essential line, vs less than 0.5w for the regular line). Also, their minimum required wattage is much higher. Where the regular dimmers should NEVER be a problem at 1w minimum, the essential line is at 4.5w. Not a lot, but that single bulb potlight in the closet just might be a 3w LED.... Nothing AGAINST the essential line, but know what you're getting. Great info to know. And as LED lighting keeps getting more advanced it might be worth getting the regular line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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