RAV Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 https://www.blackwiredesigns.com/3rd-party-driver-sales-discontinued/ Contact info for each and where moving in link. Many to Drivercentral, and some to HTIcustoms.com, a couple will be discontinued (mostly those obsoleted by newer/other drivers) South Africa C4 user 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Greenfield Solutions drivers will be revamped and available on Driver Central soon! Exciting changes coming that I think everyone will be excited by. Gary Leeds UK, SpencerT, cidle323 and 6 others 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 If the developer is transferring licences, what does one need to do to? Simply have ones dealer download the new driver and update to this one? I assume that will keep all programming intact etc. and just move the update links to the Driver Central cloud? Or will one need to get a new licence key from the dealer and / or install the driver from scratch and redo programming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Drivers will be rewritten to allow DC Cloud License/update/frame work to happen, I believe it’s not a big deal to do and active drivers providers will do it quickly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 5 hours ago, msgreenf said: Greenfield Solutions drivers will be revamped and available on Driver Central soon! Exciting changes coming that I think everyone will be excited by. Excited to your drivers or other news? What will happen to my drivers that on BWD and I didn’t see them moving to DC? If O have a dealer already on DC what happened when moving BWD drivers to DC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Amr said: Excited to your drivers or other news? What will happen to my drivers that on BWD and I didn’t see them moving to DC? If O have a dealer already on DC what happened when moving BWD drivers to DC? I can't speak for others but my drivers will continue to work with either a black wire license or a driver central license. Your black wire license key will be transferred to driver central when my driver's relaunch on driver central PorterTX, Dueport and SpencerT 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) I'm not upset about this. Blackwire has not been pleasant to deal with in terms of transferring purchased drivers from dealers that have vanished, etc. Farewell, BWD. Edited February 10, 2023 by LollerAgent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, LollerAgent said: I'm not upset about this. Blackwire has not been pleasant to deal with in terms of transferring purchased drivers from dealers that have vanished, etc. Farewell, BWD. They never replied to me for a license transferred to them from the closed business that C4 bought, they never bothered to ever reply back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil12011 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 13 hours ago, LollerAgent said: I'm not upset about this. Blackwire has not been pleasant to deal with in terms of transferring purchased drivers from dealers that have vanished, etc. Farewell, BWD. I still hold Kevin Luther in high regard, but my experience has been similar regarding license transfers, not pleasant. I was told by BW that the dealer owns the driver license, not the client. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 They will continue to be villains for license transfers, some still stuck with them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Amr said: They will continue to be villains for license transfers, some still stuck with them! I've never had any issues, then again I usually work with the driver developer and have used few of their own drivers. At any rate - moving FROM BW is as stated in the hands of the developer, BW has nothing to do with it as such. So if nothing else, 3rd party driver transfers to drivercentral or elsewhere won't be affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turls Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Luckily, I only have the first party Rachio driver from Blackwire. Control4 third party drivers have always been a shitshow as far as licenses go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 4 hours ago, turls said: Control4 third party drivers have always been a shitshow as far as licenses go. I’m not sure that is 100% fair. I have got 10s of third party drivers (quite possibly over 100) and I’ve really never had any real issues with licence transfers (when changing controllers or with changes like this one - where I’ve very easily moved 5 or 6 drivers from Blackwire to DC (adding the new driver just worked - both in terms of licensing and programming)). While I do recall some challenges a decade ago, even then my dealer was able to get everything sorted. In recent years, licensing issues have simply been a non-issue for me. I have also found virtually all third party developers to be extremely helpful… pbir, cidle323 and cdcllc 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, South Africa C4 user said: I’m not sure that is 100% fair. I have got 10s of third party drivers (quite possibly over 100) and I’ve really never had any real issues with licence transfers (when changing controllers or with changes like this one - where I’ve very easily moved 5 or 6 drivers from Blackwire to DC (adding the new driver just worked - both in terms of licensing and programming)). While I do recall some challenges a decade ago, even then my dealer was able to get everything sorted. In recent years, licensing issues have simply been a non-issue for me. I have also found virtually all third party developers to be extremely helpful… Okay I will try then now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Case had been opened for requesting 2 new license keys after migrating to new controller last Xmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turls Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 On 2/20/2023 at 2:17 PM, South Africa C4 user said: I’m not sure that is 100% fair. I have got 10s of third party drivers (quite possibly over 100) and I’ve really never had any real issues with licence transfers (when changing controllers or with changes like this one - where I’ve very easily moved 5 or 6 drivers from Blackwire to DC (adding the new driver just worked - both in terms of licensing and programming)). While I do recall some challenges a decade ago, even then my dealer was able to get everything sorted. In recent years, licensing issues have simply been a non-issue for me. I have also found virtually all third party developers to be extremely helpful… Never had any Houselogix drivers did you? eggzlot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 9 hours ago, turls said: Never had any Houselogix drivers did you? I did actually… not many though - only 3 or 4. I still use at least one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil12011 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Better question: Is anyone here still rocking the Extra Vegetables drivers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew luecke Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, neil12011 said: Better question: Is anyone here still rocking the Extra Vegetables drivers! C4 bought Extra Vegetables didn't they? So the drivers are free now. There's still a lot of people here in Australia using various ones neil12011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil12011 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Andrew luecke said: C4 bought Extra Vegetables didn't they? So the drivers are free now. There's still a lot of people here in Australia using various ones Correct, just a throwback to the older days of 3rd party drivers. Their original Sonos driver comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Tons of EV code is still in use... Just not their license code Andrew luecke and tmj4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, msgreenf said: Tons of EV code is still in use... Just not their license code I use the Russound MCA-C5 driver from EV. Still works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 License transferred smoothly this time, BWD was very prompt in releasing my license since I opened the ticket so Mitch can reassign them to my project, all is good now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 What ticket did you open? You messaged me on discord and I did it. I had nothing to w blackwire. It was me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 2 hours ago, msgreenf said: What ticket did you open? You messaged me on discord and I did it. I had nothing to w blackwire. It was me I opened a ticket on BWD, they replied and released the license and informed me to work it out with you for reassigning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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